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Cost to Trade for 8oa

Créé par: dtd_tank
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2023
Publié: 20 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
WSH & DET both lose lottery. What's the price to acquire 8oa using 18oa (from NYI) as a starting point?

With 8oa & 9oa, Detroit selects David Reinbacher & Ryan Leonard.
Transactions
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
8oa (after losing Lottery)
WSH
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
18oa + young, cost-effective players
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $62 560 556 $0 $3 775 000 $19 939 444 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 1

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20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 15
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A bust in Zadina and a middle 6 blah winger isnt even in the ballpark. You're talking about moving up 8 spots into the top ten. It's gonna cost multiple high assets.
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20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 17
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A bust and a mediocre winger doesn’t get you into the top 10 in this draft
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 21
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Will cost you a lot more then this and if we did have 8/9 I hope we draft better players then this
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: Jfstompers
A bust in Zadina and a middle 6 blah winger isnt even in the ballpark. You're talking about moving up 8 spots into the top ten. It's gonna cost multiple high assets.

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A bust and a mediocre winger doesn’t get you into the top 10 in this draft

lol, I forgot that everybody on this silly site has given up on the 23yo.

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Will cost you a lot more then this and if we did have 8/9 I hope we draft better players then this

who would you draft that would actually be available?
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20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Kubalik will be 28 in August and Zadina is bad
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 26
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Kubalik will be 28 in August and Zadina is bad


WSH needs to get guys that can provide impact immediately since all their guys are in their mid-late 30's. Kuba can do that, and Zadina is very much defensively sound while touting a 56.6% xGF%.
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 32
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Washington would likely prefer to keep this higher than normal pick in a deep draft to build a bit for the future, while trying to get back into the playoffs and contend next year, especially with a deep draft liek the one this year.

I'd imagine if any team would want to give Detroit a top 10 pick the Wings would have to give up a couple first and a great prospect.
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 35
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lol, I forgot that everybody on this silly site has given up on the 23yo.


who would you draft that would actually be available?


We need scoring more then anything at this point. One of Oliver Moore or Brayden Yager with one pick and Barlow is absolutely set in stone the other one. If it's 8/9 that is and nobody like will smith/michkov drops
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 40
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We need scoring more then anything at this point. One of Oliver Moore or Brayden Yager with one pick and Barlow is absolutely set in stone the other one. If it's 8/9 that is and nobody like will smith/michkov drops


I would have agreed, if we still had Hronek. However, we have zero top 4 RD prospects in the system, so that's likely our biggest need with scoring very close behind.

After Reinbacher getting picked, there's room for one more name. I'd be good with any of Leonard/Moore/Yager but could only grab one.
20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 48
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I would have agreed, if we still had Hronek. However, we have zero top 4 RD prospects in the system, so that's likely our biggest need with scoring very close behind.

After Reinbacher getting picked, there's room for one more name. I'd be good with any of Leonard/Moore/Yager but could only grab one.


Reinbacher is likely extremely overated due to the fact that this is a very heavy offensive prospect pool, so the few D ones are elevated. He played in a lower league and didn't stand out that much, I think someone is going to reach for him and hope it's not us. If we take him at 18 in fine with that, earlier it's a mistake. Passing on Barlow is the biggest mistake of the draft
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20 avr. 2023 à 13 h 51
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Probably, if it was at all on the table, would cost Islanders pick and at least 2 2nds.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 3
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Probably, if it was at all on the table, would cost Islanders pick and at least 2 2nds.


They'd probably want a decent prospect + 17OA.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 9
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lol, I forgot that everybody on this silly site has given up on the 23yo.


who would you draft that would actually be available?


Moore, Leonard, Sale, Dvorsky are all possibilities, I'd assume with two picks they take Reinbacker but honestly I'd rather two forwards and really add some scoring and punch to the forward prospects.
20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 13
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Moore, Leonard, Sale, Dvorsky are all possibilities, I'd assume with two picks they take Reinbacker but honestly I'd rather two forwards and really add some scoring and punch to the forward prospects.


I definitely want to add a scoring forward, but I think Yzerman will take a Dman over Forward if the players are "tied" in their ratings. Leonard and Moore are my favorites though.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 27
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Last year AZ traded 27, 34, and 45 to SJS for 11 which I will take as a baseline for moving up in a draft. 8oa is higher than 11, and in a much better draft, so going by draft capital I would say "fair value" is 8oa for 18oa and all 3 of your seconds this year which are 41, 42, and 43oa.

Could Kubalik and Zadina combined get you 3 early/mid seconds in this draft? Maybe. Are they worth that for Washington? Almost certainly not. The bigger problem for Detroit is that Washington needs either true high-end prospects from the top of the draft OR true elite forwards that can help them win now. Detroit just doesn't have that player -- think Ehlers, Konecny, DeBrincat -- that the Caps would be willing to move 8oa for. Whether they're picks or players the caps don't need more assets they need elite ones, moving down for either picks or the package you have here goes in the opposite direction.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 30
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I definitely want to add a scoring forward, but I think Yzerman will take a Dman over Forward if the players are "tied" in their ratings. Leonard and Moore are my favorites though.


I just don't want reinbacker at 9 and then us not take a forward until 18.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 35
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I just don't want reinbacker at 9 and then us not take a forward until 18.


Really, if we have 9 and 18oa, I think Reinbacher is already gone by 9oa so we take a F and possibly ASP at 18.
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20 avr. 2023 à 14 h 58
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They'd probably want a decent prospect + 17OA.


Johansson might be of interest to them actually. Maybe Hanas as well.
20 avr. 2023 à 15 h 0
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Johansson might be of interest to them actually. Maybe Hanas as well.


Wouldn't be opposed.
20 avr. 2023 à 15 h 2
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Johansson might be of interest to them actually. Maybe Hanas as well.


I would be good with 18oa + Jo + Kuba + 2nd or something along those lines.
20 avr. 2023 à 15 h 4
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I would be good with 18oa + Jo + Kuba + 2nd or something along those lines.


I would be all over it
22 avr. 2023 à 21 h 52
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Quoting: dtd_tank
WSH needs to get guys that can provide impact immediately since all their guys are in their mid-late 30's. Kuba can do that, and Zadina is very much defensively sound while touting a 56.6% xGF%.


Washington could sign guys like Kubalik and Zadina who are better in Free Agency without trading anything, yet you think they should move a Top 10 pick for them? This is idiotIc.
 
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