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Créé par: JellyHockeyPens

Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2023

Publié: 16 avr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Pittsburgh gets a faster bottom six with the ability to play defense and grind while also providing scoring. POJ will be much better defensively in his second year and Ty Smith will have the chance to prove he can handle a normal NHL role while Pittsburgh can dump Petry's contract and sign a solid and strong RD to replace him. Not sure how the Avs would feel about the Francouz trade, but it could be reworked in a few ways to make it work. Adding Francouz could give the pens a 1A/1B goalie system that DeSmith couldn't handle before. This would give Jarry the necessary rest to stay healthy and maintain his peak performance throughout the season. Let me know what wouldn't work or what could be better. (Olofsson also gives the pens a powerplay weapon that could be utilized in different ways)

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gruden, Jonathan	3	800 000 $
Hållander, Filip	3	800 000 $
Lindberg, Filip	3	800 000 $
Nylander, Alexander	3	900 000 $
O'Connor, Drew	3	850 000 $
Poehling, Ryan	2	1 000 000 $
Puustinen, Valtteri	2	800 000 $
Smith, Ty	2	1 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Zucker, Jason	4	5 000 000 $
Mayfield, Scott	4	4 250 000 $
Athanasiou, Andreas	2	2 500 000 $
Jarry, Tristan	2	4 000 000 $
Compher, J.T.	3	5 500 000 $
Heinen, Danton	2	1 000 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CHI)

CHI

Granlund, Mikael
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Could be other teams but I think Chicago would be dumb to not take on Granlund's contract for 2 years for a 2nd round pick.

PIT

Francouz, Pavel

Détails additionnels:

Francouz could take some workload off of Jarry and be more of a tandem than with DeSmith.

COL

Détails additionnels:

Considering Francouz only has one year left and only played 16 games last year his value shouldn't be too high and in return Colorado gets a manageable backup goalie that can play a good 16 games and a cheap depth forward.

PIT

Olofsson, Victor (1 500 000 $ retained)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Pittsburgh gets to dump Petry's cap while getting back a depth goal-scoring player that didn't fit into the lineup and style in Buffalo.

BUF

Petry, Jeff
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Buffalo gets a veteran right-handed defenseman to help with their weak RD in their push for the playoffs next year.

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	79 016 842 $	0 $	0 $	3 483 158 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Zucker, Jason 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, Alexander 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Olofsson, Victor 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 5	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
Athanasiou, Andreas 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Hållander, Filip 800 000 $800 000 $ C RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Jarry, Tristan 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ G UFA - 5
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Mayfield, Scott 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Francouz, Pavel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Smith, Ty 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew 850 000 $850 000 $ AG UFA - 2
Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Rust, B.		Compher, J.		Zucker, J.
	Smith, T.		Olofsson, V.

16 avr. 2023 à 19 h 19

littlejerryseinfeld

Rejoint: nov. 2017

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Not interested in petry

16 avr. 2023 à 19 h 22

OrganizedConfusion55

Rejoint: juin 2017

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Lmfao. No they don't. No one is trading for petty. Let alone retaining salary on a player that will net 20 plus goals for you next year.

And we give up the better pick lol.

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 19 h 48

Aussie_Blackhawk

Rejoint: oct. 2019

Messages: 4,986

Mentions "j'aime": 2,356

Yes I do think we should take a 2nd for Granlund though do believe it would take a little more as there is still $11m owed in salary over those 2 years.

Would probably want to see a 2nd + 3rd combination coming back and considering we have the leverage we can ask that or Pens can try ship him elsewhere and circle back if there aren't other takers as lots of clubs will be wanting to move salary and cap with it only increasing $1m this upcoming season.

exo2769, Garak et Hawksguy81 a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 12

JellyHockeyPens

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: avr. 2023

Messages: 35

Mentions "j'aime": 15

Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

Lmfao. No they don't. No one is trading for petty. Let alone retaining salary on a player that will net 20 plus goals for you next year.

And we give up the better pick lol.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Not interested in petry

I think you guys would be surprised how much a good RD would benefit the Sabres. I can almost guarantee with Petry instead of Lybushkin, Jokiharju, or Bryson the Sabres would've made the playoffs. The Sabres don't have much leverage considering Olofsson gets scratched and barely plays for Buff and with the amount of cap space that Buffalo will continue to have, retaining a bit of Olofsson and taking Petry's contract will cause no problems. The draft picks could be swapped around to make the trade work.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 19

Finn2016

Rejoint: déc. 2022

Messages: 715

Mentions "j'aime": 491

Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

We’ll sign Mayfield instead. Much cheaper younger and better player thanks

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16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 27

JellyHockeyPens

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Rejoint: avr. 2023

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Quoting: Finn2016

We’ll sign Mayfield instead. Much cheaper younger and better player thanks

Except when mayfield signs somewhere else and ur left with Lybushkin and Jokiharju and another year without playoffs.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 31

Finn2016

Rejoint: déc. 2022

Messages: 715

Mentions "j'aime": 491

Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

Except when mayfield signs somewhere else and ur left with Lybushkin and Jokiharju and another year without playoffs.

Gudas. Severson Dumba. Why settle and we can certainly overpay on anyone sensible. Funny he’s good enough for us and not you. We’ll be fine without him

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 31

littlejerryseinfeld

Rejoint: nov. 2017

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Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

Except when mayfield signs somewhere else and ur left with Lybushkin and Jokiharju and another year without playoffs.

You are right, there are only 2 available defensmen in the whole world.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 36

JellyHockeyPens

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Rejoint: avr. 2023

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Quoting: Finn2016

Gudas. Severson Dumba. Why settle and we can certainly overpay on anyone sensible. Funny he’s good enough for us and not you. We’ll be fine without him

Gudas and Dumba are horrible but whatever helps u sleep at night. The pens don't need this trade whatsoever either and could sign someone instead of VO71 just as easy so idk why I'm even arguing

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 44

#10

Finn2016

Rejoint: déc. 2022

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Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

Gudas and Dumba are horrible but whatever helps u sleep at night. The pens don't need this trade whatsoever either and could sign someone instead of VO71 just as easy so idk why I'm even arguing

Me neither

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 20 h 51

#11

Garak

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 11,163

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Personally, I don't think a 2nd is enough for the Granlund dump. But CHI probably accepts.

JellyHockeyPens et Finn2016 a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 21 h 27

#12

OrganizedConfusion55

Rejoint: juin 2017

Messages: 4,032

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Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

No we wouldn't be surprised. Petry isn't a good rhd.

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 21 h 45

#13

Dkollidas

Sabres Fan

Rejoint: févr. 2016

Messages: 265

Mentions "j'aime": 39

Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

“Barely plays”… 28 goals later… 75 games played

But… I think Petry still has good hockey and think it would be a decent 1v1 trade

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

16 avr. 2023 à 22 h 54

#14

JellyHockeyPens

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Rejoint: avr. 2023

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Quoting: Dkollidas

“Barely plays”… 28 goals later… 75 games played

But… I think Petry still has good hockey and think it would be a decent 1v1 trade

TBH I thought he got scratched more than that. That's my bad

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

17 avr. 2023 à 3 h 43

#15

TJTwolf

Rejoint: janv. 2017

Messages: 9,664

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Value is probably there in the Avs trade but if the Avs were interested in Heinen then they'd just sign him in free agency.

17 avr. 2023 à 8 h 1

#16

gretzkyghosts

Rejoint: avr. 2018

Messages: 5,352

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Quoting: JellyHockeyPens

Except when mayfield signs somewhere else and ur left with Lybushkin and Jokiharju and another year without playoffs.

Quoting: Finn2016

Gudas. Severson Dumba. Why settle and we can certainly overpay on anyone sensible. Funny he’s good enough for us and not you. We’ll be fine without him

Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

No we wouldn't be surprised. Petry isn't a good rhd.

Quoting: Dkollidas

“Barely plays”… 28 goals later… 75 games played
But… I think Petry still has good hockey and think it would be a decent 1v1 trade

Petry would be OK, but not for Olofsson.

Dumba, Orlov, Mayfield, Clifton, Gudas and more would all be an upgrade over Bryson and Buffalo would still have Olofsson's 28 goals.
Buffalo does not need to target a specific UFA Dman, just one who is better than Bryson.
It was surprising that it was game 81 that Granato finally put Olofsson on the fourth line.
Girgensons and Okposo would erase nearly any defensive liabilities of Olofsson and Victor would still find open spaces to score goals.

BTW, Jokiharju and Samuelsson are only 23, Chara was -27 at 25 yo, they will be better in two years.
Power is only 20 and he will get better next year.
Buffalo only needs an upgrade of Bryson.

Finn2016 a aimé ceci.

17 avr. 2023 à 9 h 4

#17

Hawksguy81

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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Takes more than a 2nd to move Granlund to the Hawks. Some other team might bite, but I doubt it.

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