What If Matthews Was Traded

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Créé par: Outlandish_Trades

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2023

Publié: 8 avr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

In the (unlikely) event the Maple Leafs feel they can’t re-sign Matthews, some analysts have raised the question of whether or not they’d trade him before his No-move-clause kicks in. If this were to happen, Vegas could be seen as a good destination. The team is known for making big trades, and would be closer to where Matthews grew up. He’d get a chance to play with Eichel, and the two could form one of the strongest 1-2 center groups in the league. In return, the Maple Leafs would likely want a top pick, a top prospect, a major roster player, and a couple of young players and depth pieces. This trade could offer the Leafs a chance at more depth and physical/defensive ability, which could prove beneficial even if it comes at the cost of their franchise center. It was incredibly hard to find a trade comparable, of course.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Knies, Matthew		3	875 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Abruzzese, Nick	1	825 000 $
Holmberg, Pontus	2	900 000 $
Král, Filip	1	800 000 $
Mete, Victor	1	800 000 $
Hollowell, Mac	1	800 000 $
Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon	1	800 000 $
Källgren, Erik	1	800 000 $
Samsonov, Ilya	2	3 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Schenn, Luke	2	1 000 000 $
Kämpf, David	2	1 600 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach	1	850 000 $
Acciari, Noel	2	1 300 000 $
Bunting, Michael	3	4 000 000 $
O'Reilly, Ryan	3	4 100 000 $

Transactions

TOR

VGK

Rachats de contrats

Jake Muzzin: 4 291 667 $

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	83 488 683 $	0 $	0 $	11 317 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Karlsson, William 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	O'Reilly, Ryan 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2
Knies, Matthew 875 000 $875 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Kämpf, David 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ C UFA - 4	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Cotter, Paul 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 3	Acciari, Noel 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Lafferty, Sam 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ AD, C, AG UFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7		Samsonov, Ilya 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Hague, Nicolas 2 294 150 $2 294 150 $ DG RFA - 2

8 avr. 2023 à 15 h 59

Boltsbeathabs

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I hope this doesn't happen. I hope he decides to screw Toronto like Tavares screwed the Islanders.

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 0

Billy316

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I mean it seemed like it might be ok until i seen your 4 centers, thats just not good.

Tavares , Karlsson, Oreilly then Kampf is Solid
But Karlsson on top? If he was capable Eichel woulda never been acquired

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 2

Billy316

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I hope this doesn't happen. I hope he decides to screw Toronto like Tavares screwed the Islanders.

I mean if he stayed how could that team survive at his cap hit back then ?
He left because NYI wasnt taking him seriously and basically said "if you think you can get more elsewhere feel free"
NYI put themselves in that position

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 7

Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: Billy316

He also in multiple interviews said he wanted to stay. Be honest that's not going to do it .

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 10

littlejerryseinfeld

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Vegas famously has the cap space for this

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 13

MoSeider53

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Vegas can't afford Matthews, And talk about a garbage offer for him. Yikes.

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 16

Outlandish_Trades

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Vegas famously has the cap space for this

Oh don’t worry they’ll just ship off another one of their old core players for future considerations like they did Pacioretty and Fluery. It’s an annual tradition. Goodbye Reilly Smith

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 24

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I hope this doesn't happen. I hope he decides to screw Toronto like Tavares screwed the Islanders.

He's going to screw Tampa by dominating them in a couple weeks.

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 29

Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: RipNasty

He's going to screw Tampa by dominating them in a couple weeks.

🙄Toronto one and dones 3 cups 2 Final 3 other appearances in the conference finals since Toronto has won a round Bhahahahahahaha

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 32

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GO KNIGHTS GO

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

🙄Toronto one and dones 3 cups 2 Final 3 other appearances in the conference finals since Toronto has won a round Bhahahahahahaha

Cupless since ‘67

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 33

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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous

Cupless since ‘67

I had rubbed enough salt to make it sting

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 35

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TheFastAndTheFleuryous

GO KNIGHTS GO

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I had rubbed enough salt to make it sting

Can you blame me for bringing the hammer down?

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 36

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Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous

Can you blame me for bringing the hammer down?

Nope was actually glad someone did. I however was showing a little restraint

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 45

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palhal

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

He also in multiple interviews said he wanted to stay. Be honest that's not going to do it .

You're right, players don't put themselves or their team "under the bus" by saying they want to be traded or going to leave as UFAs. I'm always amazed that fans believe what players, coach, or GMs say publicly.
Matthews really can't be traded till TDL when he cap isn't so restrictive to the contending team that trades for him. Leafs have the decision next TDL, are we in wih all our expiring contracts, Matthews, Nylander and Brodie or are we sellers....for futures and having lots of cap space in the summer.

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 45

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Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous

Can you blame me for bringing the hammer down?

They passed the Rangers record of 54 year between cups right? He he he he

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8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 47

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Quoting: palhal

I however don't believe he was honest with management either or they would have dealt him to acquired some assets. At least according to Snow

8 avr. 2023 à 16 h 55

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palhal

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I however don't believe he was honest with management either or they would have dealt him to acquired some assets. At least according to Snow

The fact that Matthews signed just a 5 contract, shows to me way back when, he was thinking about becoming a UFA and maybe playing elsewhere. Now I believe he had great distain with coach Mike Babcock, who was a horrible person and poor bench coach. I've said for years, I believe Matthews wants to play in a big US market. LA Kings are my first choice with an expiring Koptitar contract.
Leafs are in a win mode, I don't think they were selling Matthews regardless, but I next TDL....that might be wise.

8 avr. 2023 à 17 h 2

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Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: palhal

As it would have been for the Islanders if Tavares had said listen I just really want to go play in Toronto. That was his right but be a man and tell them up front. Loved the where's you jammies chants.

8 avr. 2023 à 17 h 12

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palhal

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

There's no logic in what you wrote. It was Isles management that had the choice if they traded Tavares. The Isles were two points out of the playoffs, so they didn't trade him. The fact that he hadn't resigned by TDL, the Isles management must've know their was good chance he was leaving. And I can't blame any player.....Eight years for one team with little team success just might be enough. Makes no difference what Tavares said (we will never know). Isles still could have traded Tavares and resigned him in the summer possibility

8 avr. 2023 à 18 h 12

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Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: palhal

Really your ability to reason is that weak you can't figure out he (according to Garth Snow) Fu**ING lied to islander management and said he wanted to resign but actually took a lower offer to play in Toronto. If he had been a man and said to Snow I just really want to go home,then he trades him and the Islanders get some assets. How is that not easily understandable

8 avr. 2023 à 19 h 42

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palhal

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

Of course, Snow could be putting his own spin on why Tavares wasn't resigned to protect his ass. Really your ability to reason is that weak you can't figure out when Tavares said "wanted to sign", doesn't have much meaning. Isles and Tavares had one and half years to make solidify a deal. Gee, GMs lie all the time, how many time does a GM tell a coach/and the media "You're not getting fired" and the coach is fired days later. Or player "Isn't going to get traded", and they are traded.

8 avr. 2023 à 20 h 43

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I hope this doesn't happen. I hope he decides to screw Toronto like Tavares screwed the Islanders.

That’d be glorious to watch

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8 avr. 2023 à 21 h 7

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Modifié 8 avr. 2023 à 21 h 29

Quoting: palhal

With the situation the Islanders were in at the time Snow telling the truth makes more sense. They weren't a playoff team and unless you believe you have a deal imminent why wouldn't you dump him? So, buy what happened Snow believing he had an imminent deal is logical. The only reason you'd believe you have an imminent deal is conversation with the player or you're a complete moron (other than Mike Millbury) I can't really remember one of those.

8 avr. 2023 à 21 h 40

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palhal

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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs

I really don't know why people think Tavares is unique in this situation. Don't you hear all the time a player says "I want to stay with this team". Then he bolts as a UFA to another team.

No, I don't believe a deal was imminent or else the deal would have been signed. Tavares saying "he wants to sign" (as an Islander) and what Boltsbeathabs quoted ,,,so what, players say that all the time....maybe even to his GM. Why wouldn't he, they don't want to lose leverage in getting an eight year deal.

8 avr. 2023 à 21 h 45

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Quoting: palhal

You misunderstood me I said he made Snow believe it was imminent. That I'm sorry is the most logical scenario. Unless you believe Garth Snow is an utter and complete moron.

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