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Créé par: penguins47
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 30 mars 2023
Publié: 30 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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    30 mars 2023 à 18 h 42
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    I like it overall. I would buyout Granlund's contract though, will only cost 800k a year. Then can slide Compher to center and grab another winger or beef up the D more. Maybe we can drop Rutta or Petry as well to try and get some speed on D. Overall though, like what you did here, especially with the forward group.
    30 mars 2023 à 18 h 54
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    Jeff Carter isn't waiving for Philly.

    And if Tyler Bertuzzi was willing to sign that low ball offer, He'd still be in Detroit. Zero chance in hell he takes a 2 year offer for less money than what he's currently making now.
    31 mars 2023 à 0 h 4
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    No, we're not trading our first pick in this year's draft for Pierre-Olivier Joseph.
    31 mars 2023 à 5 h 32
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    While Im not sure LA does that deal for POJ, Philly might take that 3rd rounder and Carter off your hands, but they may want a 2023 3rd, not 2024.

    Philly lacks centers and with the amount of youth they have, a veteran and well regarded former player like carter would be a good fit at 4th line center (or 3C is case of injuries).

    And while Carter is a cap move, I think PIT should be very hesitant about the overall team age. The lineup above has what 2 players under the age of 26? Two? In Smith and 4th line average Poehling. Its pretty troubling. And while the UFA signings of Compher and Ritchie are pretty solid and well needed, I'm thinking that PIT is in a crossroads NOW.

    If PIT doesn;t make the playoffs this year, then you are looking at a team just one year older next with ALL of your key players really getting near/past decline. Im not saying they should become sellers, but I think they have to think long and hard when Crosby, Malkin, Granlund, Zucker, Petry, Letang, Bonino and Rutta are all well into their 30s and you've got 2 players under 26 yrs old
    31 mars 2023 à 9 h 30
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    It's a good team, but....... Carter doesn't waive, and Bertuzzi and Zucker don't sign for that low.

    Also, why are we trading POJ?
    4 avr. 2023 à 18 h 0
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Jeff Carter isn't waiving for Philly.

    And if Tyler Bertuzzi was willing to sign that low ball offer, He'd still be in Detroit. Zero chance in hell he takes a 2 year offer for less money than what he's currently making now.


    He has 7 goals this year dude
    4 avr. 2023 à 18 h 1
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    No, we're not trading our first pick in this year's draft for Pierre-Olivier Joseph.


    it says 2nd round
    4 avr. 2023 à 18 h 22
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    it says 2nd round


    Yes, it says, second round, but we traded away our 2023 first in the Gavrikov-Korpisalo deal, so in English, the 2023 second is our first pick in this year's draft, just like I said.

    It's usually a good idea to view proposed trades from the other team's perspective while constructing them.
    4 avr. 2023 à 19 h 0
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    Yes, it says, second round, but we traded away our 2023 first in the Gavrikov-Korpisalo deal, so in English, the 2023 second is our first pick in this year's draft, just like I said.

    It's usually a good idea to view proposed trades from the other team's perspective while constructing them.


    I totally missed that, I still think POJ for a second is more than fair, it may not be the Kings but the Pens could get that return incredibly easily
    4 avr. 2023 à 19 h 4
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Yes, it says, second round, but we traded away our 2023 first in the Gavrikov-Korpisalo deal, so in English, the 2023 second is our first pick in this year's draft, just like I said.

    It's usually a good idea to view proposed trades from the other team's perspective while constructing them.


    And also to be honest I don't think an NHL team would ever consider the lack of having a first round pick when trading their second round pick, so you're way off there. If they feel like the return for that pick is good, they'll do the trade. The Penguins had 1 pick in the first 4 rounds 2 years ago, quantity of selections for that draft year is rarely considered in a trade
    4 avr. 2023 à 20 h 59
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    And also to be honest I don't think an NHL team would ever consider the lack of having a first round pick when trading their second round pick, so you're way off there. If they feel like the return for that pick is good, they'll do the trade. The Penguins had 1 pick in the first 4 rounds 2 years ago, quantity of selections for that draft year is rarely considered in a trade

    Well, your inexperience is showing here. The fact that you "don't think" something doesn't mean that I'm "way off there"; in fact, there's no factual connection between the two. One of the reasons why the Penguins have one of the worst prospect pools in the League is due in part to the fact that they had 1 selection in the first 4 rounds 2 years ago (and also only one pick in the first four rounds in 2019, which they spent on Sam Poulin). And quantity of selections in a particular draft year is ALWAYS considered in making trades.
    13 avr. 2023 à 18 h 15
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    Well, your inexperience is showing here. The fact that you "don't think" something doesn't mean that I'm "way off there"; in fact, there's no factual connection between the two. One of the reasons why the Penguins have one of the worst prospect pools in the League is due in part to the fact that they had 1 selection in the first 4 rounds 2 years ago (and also only one pick in the first four rounds in 2019, which they spent on Sam Poulin). And quantity of selections in a particular draft year is ALWAYS considered in making trades.


    If a team likes the return in a trade, they're going to trade their second regardless if they have a first. It seems your argument is more that the Kings don't accept this offer because they don't like the return and not that they don't have a first round selection. I don't disagree that they may not like this return, but your logic behind the emphasis on quantity of picks in trading is flawed, but you do you
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    If a team likes the return in a trade, they're going to trade their second regardless if they have a first. It seems your argument is more that the Kings don't accept this offer because they don't like the return and not that they don't have a first round selection. I don't disagree that they may not like this return, but your logic behind the emphasis on quantity of picks in trading is flawed, but you do you

    Clearly false, as the history of my own team proves. What you fail to grasp is that "return," by definition, is a risk-reward calculation, and my being me has nothing to do with it. A team with one pick in three rounds is going to judge "return" entirely differently from a team with three picks in one round and picks in the other two. A couple of years ago, Los Angeles invested a second round draft pick in Lias Andersson -- a gamble which turned out to be unrewarded, but not painful because it was the latest of three picks the Kings had in that second round. I guarantee you that the Kings would not have made that trade if it wasn't preceded by a first and two seconds. And that's the situation here.
     
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