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dark horse wildcard team

Créé par: MarcBergevin69
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2023
Publié: 28 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
With good health throughout the season, this team could definitely fight for a wild card spot all year long. This is also with the assumption that the have lose the lottery and draft Will Smith or Benson / someone who won't play right away.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
88 000 000 $
31 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
28 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
13 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Mesar, Filip
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
2.
MTL
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de MTL
Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
Logo de PIT
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de SJS
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de TBL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2682 500 000 $82 184 166 $1 170 000 $4 752 500 $315 834 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance557 500 $$558K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2

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28 mars 2023 à 14 h 32
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There's no logical or rational reason for the Jets to trade Dubois for less than he gets as a rental at the TDL
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28 mars 2023 à 14 h 35
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Oh god, he's back...
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28 mars 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Windjammer
There's no logical or rational reason for the Jets to trade Dubois for less than he gets as a rental at the TDL


you're getting a first, second and roster player. you're not getting more than that as a rental.
28 mars 2023 à 14 h 37
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Dvorak has very little value, The dude hasn't even scored 40 yet. You need to at least add the Florida 1st to the offer. No way does Chevy move PLD for this offer.

Washington isn't even close to a wild card team yet, Florida, Tampa, Toronto. Plus Buffalo, Ottawa and Detroit are all getting much better. East is going to be tough again with a lot of up and coming young team ready to make their push.
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28 mars 2023 à 14 h 37
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Oh god, he's back...

what
28 mars 2023 à 14 h 39
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Dvorak has very little value, The dude hasn't even scored 40 yet. You need to at least add the Florida 1st to the offer. No way does Chevy move PLD for this offer.

Washington isn't even close to a wild card team yet, Florida, Tampa, Toronto. Plus Buffalo, Ottawa and Detroit are all getting much better. East is going to be tough again with a lot of up and coming young team ready to make their push.

I mean on paper I could see this roster being competitive with all those "up and coming young teams" especially with the play of Matheson who's been lights out as on the top pair along with all the additions and depth this team has.
28 mars 2023 à 14 h 42
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you're getting a first, second and roster player. you're not getting more than that as a rental.


??? It's missing the first. You're offering two players valued at about a 3rd each, neither of which the Jets would target in a trade and a 2nd. A first and good prospect is the minimum at the TDL and the Jets have no reason to accept less.
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what


Not a reference to you.

You'll understand shortly.
28 mars 2023 à 14 h 51
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I don't mean to burst your bubble... but you have to know that Montreal (with Dubois) have no chance at being close to the wild card spot next year. If you want to argue the year after that (only if Matthews leaves TO, Tampa implodes and Boston is too old to compete), then you have a chance and even then, it'll be a dog fight to the very end...

If I were Hughes, I would be shipping off Suzuki or Caufield (prob Suzuki considering he is older), Dach, Allen, Matheson and Savard for their values at draft day and try to compete in 2026-27 when all of these teams have imploded (maybe not But and Ott but they will be on their last hurrah). When trading the players above, teams with bad GMs (EDM, PITS, TBL, PHI etc.) would be GMs that I would be calling first to start the price high.
28 mars 2023 à 14 h 56
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I don't mean to burst your bubble... but you have to know that Montreal (with Dubois) have no chance at being close to the wild card spot next year. If you want to argue the year after that (only if Matthews leaves TO, Tampa implodes and Boston is too old to compete), then you have a chance and even then, it'll be a dog fight to the very end...

If I were Hughes, I would be shipping off Suzuki or Caufield (prob Suzuki considering he is older), Dach, Allen, Matheson and Savard for their values at draft day and try to compete in 2026-27 when all of these teams have imploded (maybe not But and Ott but they will be on their last hurrah). When trading the players above, teams with bad GMs (EDM, PITS, TBL, PHI etc.) would be GMs that I would be calling first to start the price high.


you think im taking this bait lol get a life
28 mars 2023 à 15 h 55
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you think im taking this bait lol get a life


Julien Brisebois has won more cups as GM in 4 years than Montreal has in 30 but, ok he's a bad GM all time most moronic comment.
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28 mars 2023 à 15 h 58
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
I don't mean to burst your bubble... but you have to know that Montreal (with Dubois) have no chance at being close to the wild card spot next year. If you want to argue the year after that (only if Matthews leaves TO, Tampa implodes and Boston is too old to compete), then you have a chance and even then, it'll be a dog fight to the very end...

If I were Hughes, I would be shipping off Suzuki or Caufield (prob Suzuki considering he is older), Dach, Allen, Matheson and Savard for their values at draft day and try to compete in 2026-27 when all of these teams have imploded (maybe not But and Ott but they will be on their last hurrah). When trading the players above, teams with bad GMs (EDM, PITS, TBL, PHI etc.) would be GMs that I would be calling first to start the price high.



Julien Brisebois has won more cups as GM in 4 years than Montreal has in 30 or Toronto has in 55 but, ok he's a bad GM all time most moronic comment.
28 mars 2023 à 21 h 23
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Julien Brisebois has won more cups as GM in 4 years than Montreal has in 30 or Toronto has in 55 but, ok he's a bad GM all time most moronic comment.


Because Steve Yzerman definitely didn't build 95% of what Brisebois used to win those cups 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. He payed 2 1sts for Hagel and 5 picks and a former 1st for Jeannot. Those aren't good moves.
28 mars 2023 à 21 h 27
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you think im taking this bait lol get a life


You saying this with that Dubois trade is very ironic... the East is going to be stacked next year (no wild card), the year after (no wild card) and the year after that (no wild card). That leaves 2026-27
28 mars 2023 à 21 h 28
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Because Steve Yzerman definitely didn't build 95% of what Brisebois used to win those cups 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. He payed 2 1sts for Hagel and 5 picks and a former 1st for Jeannot. Those aren't good moves.


Julien Brisebois was also a big part of what Yzerman built. And Yzerman doesn't do Coleman and Goodrow trades. He doesn't believe in trading 1st round picks like Julien Brisebois does. Yzerman didn't draft Stamkos Hedman Killorn. So, no he didn't build 95%
28 mars 2023 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Julien Brisebois was also a big part of what Yzerman built. And Yzerman doesn't do Coleman and Goodrow trades. He doesn't believe in trading 1st round picks like Julien Brisebois does. Yzerman didn't draft Stamkos Hedman Killorn. So, no he didn't build 95%


Tampa still wins the cup even without the Coleman and Goodrow trades... Yzerman 100% drafted Stamkos Hedman and Killorn
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Tampa still wins the cup even without the Coleman and Goodrow trades... Yzerman 100% drafted Stamkos Hedman and Killorn[/quot



No they don't go B2B without Goodrow Gourde Coleman line

No Stamkos and Hedman were Drafted by Brian Lawton Alex Killorn was drafted by Jay Feaster
Yzerman's first Pick as GM Was Brett Connolly

The owner who hired Yzerman said he bought the team because he had a great foundation with Hedman Stamkos St.Louis Lecavalier
28 mars 2023 à 22 h 10
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The owner who hired Yzerman said he bought the team because he had a great foundation with Hedman Stamkos St.Louis Lecavalier


They 100% do with Gourde and that cap space. Fair with the Stamkos and Hedman but they were each 1st overall pick whereas guys like Vasy/Point/Kuch/Cerrelli/Palat/ later (you, the core), flipped for Sergachev, traded for Miller and McDonagh/dumped Bishop and received Cernak in the process etc.
 
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