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Starting the Rebuild

Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 20 mars 2023
Publié: 20 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Flyers at current pick 6, take Will Smith (C) out of the US.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
1925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
2900 000 $
1800 000 $
32 300 000 $
1925 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
84 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
2775 000 $
1775 000 $
11 300 000 $
1775 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Smith, Will
3925 000 $
Maier, Nolan
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Allison, Wade
  2. Provorov, Ivan (2 500 000 $ retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
3.
PHI
  1. Coghlan, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
4.
PHI
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
The biggest reason the picks are the way they are is because of Allen being on a 2 year, 3.85 million AAV contract still. Plus I think the asking price here is not crazy for the fact that Hart will become their new franchise goalie which models his game after Price.
5.
PHI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
This could be any team that is just looking for a cheap good back up that will play maybe 20-25 games a year. He puts up good number behind a bad team just like Hart.
6.
PHI
    Any team off of Waivers
    ANA
    1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
    7.
    PHI
    1. Foudy, Liam
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
    3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
    Détails additionnels:
    Condition: The Flyers will receive Columbus's 2024 6th if Hayes gets 50+ points or 2024 5th if 60+ points are reached or 2024 4th if 70+ points are reached. Can be pushed back to 2025 if Columbus trades 2024 picks but then 2025 7th must be added to trade as compensation. The Flyers are guaranteed the 2024 7th if none of this happens.
    CBJ
    1. Hayes, Kevin (2 500 000 $ retained)
    8.
    PHI
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (SEA)
    SEA
    1. Frost, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de CBJ
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de PHI
    2024
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de CAR
    Logo de VGK
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de SEA
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de CBJ
    2025
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de VGK
    Logo de SEA
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de CAR
    Logo de PHI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2283 500 000 $65 570 834 $1 187 500 $2 007 500 $17 929 166 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    Smith, Will
    925 000 $925 000 $
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA

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    20 mars 2023 à 16 h 53
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    mokumboi
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    Boy, that seems kinda cheap to be sending Konecny to a division rival.
    20 mars 2023 à 16 h 57
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    Hunter Mikosz
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Boy, that seems kinda cheap to be sending Konecny to a division rival.


    I agree with you here. What do you think is a good value? Two Firsts and prospects maybe?
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 3
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    Go Habs Go
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    It's worth considering for Montreal.
    I'm not sure Hart is "the" guy, but I personally feel Montembeault definitely is "not" the guy.

    We may be able to do better with less assets, but goaltenders are always risky and as long as we have another in the pipeline (Dobes, Hrabal?), I'm willing to trade for someone further along once.
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 5
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    Quoting: Hunter8853
    I agree with you here. What do you think is a good value? Two Firsts and prospects maybe?


    Well, for starters, I would not let them defer the picks to '24. Ask for their 23 1st, for sure.
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 22
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    Sennecke is a gem
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    Habs accept
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 33
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    I know goalie returns are never what fans might expect but that feels like a really cheap price for a 24 year old goalie that is still being viewed as the franchise goalie. Even if the Flyers rebuild takes 5 years he'd be 29 and you should build from the back out imo. With how we are seeing goalie age into their 30's there's no reason to feel like that's too old
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 40
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    LA is not prepared to sell low on Turcotte.
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 41
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    Quoting: flyersarephilly
    I know goalie returns are never what fans might expect but that feels like a really cheap price for a 24 year old goalie that is still being viewed as the franchise goalie. Even if the Flyers rebuild takes 5 years he'd be 29 and you should build from the back out imo. With how we are seeing goalie age into their 30's there's no reason to feel like that's too old


    Its an agressive overpay by the habs. A goalie hasnt gone for a lottery pick since schneider and corey at the time was a top 5 goalie. Hart is worth maybe a late 1st
    20 mars 2023 à 17 h 46
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    Quoting: Black61
    Its an agressive overpay by the habs. A goalie hasnt gone for a lottery pick since schneider and corey at the time was a top 5 goalie. Hart is worth maybe a late 1st


    Florida is 1 point out of the playoffs... I'd understand you saying that if it was the Habs first and there would likely be protection on the pick
    20 mars 2023 à 18 h 26
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    Habs accept


    Quoting: Black61
    Its an agressive overpay by the habs. A goalie hasnt gone for a lottery pick since schneider and corey at the time was a top 5 goalie. Hart is worth maybe a late 1st


    It's an aggressive move for sure. I don't think it's the right time either. We can ride out Allen and go UFA while waiting on development of a guy, or we can make a move for someone with some development already, who might be ready when the rest of the team is.
    I'd be much more comfortable with our 2nd and a 3rd instead of a 5th, as a 1st is an overpay based on precedent. There's room for debate however. Maybe this is where the discussion starts and maybe there's a more palatable deal to come from it.
    Like would Philly add one of their 2nds from next year to compromise?
    They may be able to sell Allen as a rental for a 3rd(ish) later on to recoup value.
    Maybe they take Montembeault instead who they may decide to keep around longer.
    Maybe Florida reaches the conference finals and the value of the 1st is more reasonable.
    Maybe our 2nd is enough if Hrabal is their target.
     
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