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Moving On From Some Players To Start A Rebuild

Créé par: MikeKeenanHatesMe
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2023
Publié: 15 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
First round picks:

Calgary 1st: David Reinbacher RHD
NYI 1st: Luca Pinelli C/W
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
11 350 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Veleno, Joseph [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
DET
  1. Lindholm, Elias
Détails additionnels:
This would be a pre draft trade.
2.
CGY
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
BUF
  1. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
It’s an assumption that he would take a move to Buffalo, which looks like a better move now than it did a year ago.
3.
CGY
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
NYI
    Dumped before free agency
    4.
    CGY
    1. Grans, Helge
    2. Pinelli, Francesco
    3. Walker, Sean
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
    Détails additionnels:
    2024 1st top 10 protected
    LAK
    1. Hanifin, Noah (1 950 000 $ retained)
    2. Nodler, Josh [Liste de réserve]
    Détails additionnels:
    Traded early in the season (thinking around December)
    5.
    CGY
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
    Détails additionnels:
    Deadline deal 2024 1st is top 10 protected
    PIT
    1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 100 000 $ retained)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2023
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    2024
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    Logo de PIT
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2283 500 000 $81 738 333 $0 $0 $1 761 667 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Exempté du ballottagePelletier, Jakob
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
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    Kadri, Nazem
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Huberdeau, Jonathan
    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Ruzicka, Adam
    762 500 $762 500 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    Backlund, Mikael
    5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Mangiapane, Andrew
    5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Phillips, Matthew
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Jost, Tyson
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Coleman, Blake
    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Dubé, Dillon
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Veleno, Joseph
    1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Bailey, Josh
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Weegar, MacKenzie
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Andersson, Rasmus
    4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
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    Markström, Jacob
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Zadorov, Nikita
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    Walker, Sean
    2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Vladar, Daniel
    2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Kylington, Oliver
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Stecher, Troy
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Gilbert, Dennis
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Rooney, Kevin
    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1

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    15 mars 2023 à 13 h 43
    #26
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    Detroit even does it without an extension, IMO. I see no reason, outside of money, that Lindholm wouldn't want to play with our Swedes long term.
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    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 4
    #27
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    Quoting: buffbry9108
    If it comes with an extension wings accept

    Quoting: Spaceman
    Was thinking the exact same thing. Without an extension I'm not trading a 1st and Veleno for 1 year of Lindholm.

    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Detroit definitely does it, If Elias Lindholm comes with an extension.


    And no longer needing a to draft a center Detroit switches their focus to drafting RHD and takes Reinbacher with their pick.
    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 5
    #28
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    Quoting: aedoran
    And no longer needing a to draft a center Detroit switches their focus to drafting RHD and takes Reinbacher with their pick.


    Or Barlow if still there for a dominant winger that we need
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    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 18
    #29
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    Quoting: dtd_tank
    Detroit even does it without an extension, IMO. I see no reason, outside of money, that Lindholm wouldn't want to play with our Swedes long term.


    Easy there! The extension is a must. He won't have another 40+ goal season high 20s and maybe low 30s. Last season he was centering Tkachuk and Gaudreau.
    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 19
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    No, we're not giving up all of that for half a season of Noah Hanifin.
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    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 40
    #31
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    Quoting: buffbry9108
    Or Barlow if still there for a dominant winger that we need


    Detroit is so thin at RHD they've moved Chiarot to his off side. The need is much more pressing for an RHD. If you want a good young RHD you need to draft him. Since defensemen on average take longer to develop than forwards do it makes sense to get one ASAP.
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    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 42
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    Quoting: aedoran
    And no longer needing a to draft a center Detroit switches their focus to drafting RHD and takes Reinbacher with their pick.


    Definitely works for me.
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    15 mars 2023 à 14 h 57
    #33
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    Quoting: aedoran
    And no longer needing a to draft a center Detroit switches their focus to drafting RHD and takes Reinbacher with their pick.


    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Definitely works for me.

    If you look at my contemporaneous mock draft, you'll see that I have Detroit drafting Sandin Pellikka only because Vancouver selects Reinbacher ahead of them.

    I'd take a "Reinbacher/Sandin Pellika vs. the field" bet.
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    15 mars 2023 à 15 h 5
    #34
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    If you look at my contemporaneous mock draft, you'll see that I have Detroit drafting Sandin Pellikka only because Vancouver selects Reinbacher ahead of them.

    I'd take a "Reinbacher/Sandin Pellika vs. the field" bet.


    Same here.
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    15 mars 2023 à 16 h 51
    #35
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Detroit definitely does it, If Elias Lindholm comes with an extension.


    You’ll have more than enough room to extend him.
    15 mars 2023 à 16 h 53
    #36
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    No, we're not giving up all of that for half a season of Noah Hanifin.


    Why wouldn’t he want to sign an extension in LA?
    15 mars 2023 à 17 h 9
    #37
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    Why wouldn’t he want to sign an extension in LA?


    Because some team in a lower-tax jurisdiction might offer him the same amount of money as we can?

    Because someone persuades him that their team has a better chance at winning the Stanley Cup than we do?
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    15 mars 2023 à 20 h 14
    #38
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    If you look at my contemporaneous mock draft, you'll see that I have Detroit drafting Sandin Pellikka only because Vancouver selects Reinbacher ahead of them.

    I'd take a "Reinbacher/Sandin Pellika vs. the field" bet.


    I can see Vancouver taking Reinbacher but Hronek was a definite upgrade. Even at 10 I think Reinbacher is a bit of a reach and the only way I see Detroit taking him with that pick is because they addressed their need for a center by trading for Lindholm, allowing them to draft a player they need over best available. I don't see Yzerman drafting sub 6' defenseman.
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    16 mars 2023 à 8 h 39
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Easy there! The extension is a must. He won't have another 40+ goal season high 20s and maybe low 30s. Last season he was centering Tkachuk and Gaudreau.


    Sure, but he still isn't a slouch this year. On pace for 23 goals and 68 pts without those guys, on top of a FO win rate of 57%, CF of 57.2%, and xGF of 52%. And a Swedish RH C who was 2nd in Selke voting last year. What a fit he would be...
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    16 mars 2023 à 15 h 15
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    Modifié 16 mars 2023 à 16 h 13
    Quoting: dtd_tank
    Sure, but he still isn't a slouch this year. On pace for 23 goals and 68 pts without those guys, on top of a FO win rate of 57%, CF of 57.2%, and xGF of 52%. And a Swedish RH C who was 2nd in Selke voting last year. What a fit he would be...


    I get that and if it was Bostons 2024 I might be ok with it but they want the NYI 2023 1st and extension is a must.
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