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Carter Hart et PLD

Créé par: habslife
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 12 mars 2023
Publié: 12 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2825 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
78 500 000 $
88 500 000 $
62 250 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Mysak, Jan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Protection top 10
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Beck, Owen
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
14# overall pick

= trade Horvat (+-)
3.
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
28-32#
NYR
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $72 561 499 $1 170 000 $4 277 500 $10 938 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1

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12 mars 2023 à 14 h 33
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Drury says no thanks, you can keep Edmundson.
12 mars 2023 à 14 h 39
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Why would Philly part with hart?
12 mars 2023 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Drury says no thanks, you can keep Edmundson.


I dont think he says no, late 1rst rarely turns out into something and you guys are in win now mode.

Eddy can be a great 3rd pairing guy who plays physical, brings leadership and can play top 4 in the case of injuries for 1,7 mil is actually pretty good. We have seen this kind of trade, like when TBL gave their 1rst for Savard (they won the cup as a reminder)

1rst rounders are the most overvalued assets in the NHL, specially when its in the 25-32 range. Its basically trying to find a needle in a haystack at that point. Rangers wouldnt turn down a garranted asset who helps them win now over a maybe who could be something in 5 years, when Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Trouba are all 35+ years old
12 mars 2023 à 14 h 58
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Why would Philly part with hart?


If Philly is entering a long rebuild, as has recently been suggested by Brière they probably want to sell high on Hart as he's unlikely to re-sign for his prime and he doesn't fit the window.
12 mars 2023 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: Aaron_Dell_Pickle
I dont think he says no, late 1rst rarely turns out into something and you guys are in win now mode.

Eddy can be a great 3rd pairing guy who plays physical, brings leadership and can play top 4 in the case of injuries for 1,7 mil is actually pretty good. We have seen this kind of trade, like when TBL gave their 1rst for Savard (they won the cup as a reminder)

1rst rounders are the most overvalued assets in the NHL, specially when its in the 25-32 range. Its basically trying to find a needle in a haystack at that point. Rangers wouldnt turn down a garranted asset who helps them win now over a maybe who could be something in 5 years, when Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Trouba are all 35+ years old


What the hell are you talking about? He has 7 points over 45 games and is a minus 18. Nobody is giving up a 1st for that, I mean nobody. Name one team who trades a 1st in a deep draft for a 3rd pairing defenseman?
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12 mars 2023 à 15 h 12
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What the hell are you talking about? He has 7 points over 45 games and is a minus 18. Nobody is giving up a 1st for that, I mean nobody. Name one team who trades a 1st in a deep draft for a 3rd pairing defenseman?


Ahhh yes, evaluating a defensive defenseman on points on the team with the 28th ranked offense. And we all know plus minus isnt a reliable stat. And like I pointed it out in my recent comment, Tampa did with david savard, Florida gave up even more for Ben Chiarot, Philly giving up a 14th overall and a 2nd for Ristolainen are some notable exemple of the top of my head. We can also look at all the 3rd liners who fetched 1rst rounder + other assets.
12 mars 2023 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: Aaron_Dell_Pickle
I dont think he says no, late 1rst rarely turns out into something and you guys are in win now mode.

Eddy can be a great 3rd pairing guy who plays physical, brings leadership and can play top 4 in the case of injuries for 1,7 mil is actually pretty good. We have seen this kind of trade, like when TBL gave their 1rst for Savard (they won the cup as a reminder)

1rst rounders are the most overvalued assets in the NHL, specially when its in the 25-32 range. Its basically trying to find a needle in a haystack at that point. Rangers wouldnt turn down a garranted asset who helps them win now over a maybe who could be something in 5 years, when Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Trouba are all 35+ years old


Rangers easily turn it down. They have plenty of depth on D as is and would just sign Mikkola after this season rather than give up anything to get Edmunson. Drury wouldn't even consider it.
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12 mars 2023 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: Aaron_Dell_Pickle
Ahhh yes, evaluating a defensive defenseman on points on the team with the 28th ranked offense. And we all know plus minus isnt a reliable stat. And like I pointed it out in my recent comment, Tampa did with david savard, Florida gave up even more for Ben Chiarot, Philly giving up a 14th overall and a 2nd for Ristolainen are some notable exemple of the top of my head. We can also look at all the 3rd liners who fetched 1rst rounder + other assets.


Those are notable examples of terrible trades by the then GMs of Florida and Philadelphia, it worked out for Tampa but they could've found a serviceable 3rd pair dman without giving up a 1st.
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12 mars 2023 à 15 h 33
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Seems fair for PLD, I'd do it if I was Chevy, might try to negotiate for a different prospect then Struble as the Jets are full at LHD but its fine otherwise.
12 mars 2023 à 15 h 42
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What the hell are you talking about? He has 7 points over 45 games and is a minus 18. Nobody is giving up a 1st for that, I mean nobody. Name one team who trades a 1st in a deep draft for a 3rd pairing defenseman?


Florida Panthers
12 mars 2023 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: rosenj
If Philly is entering a long rebuild, as has recently been suggested by Brière they probably want to sell high on Hart as he's unlikely to re-sign for his prime and he doesn't fit the window.

Hart is 24, goalies primes are later, if that gm is smart, check the goalie box and offer up 8x 6 or less and get hart done for rebuild and good again flyers.
12 mars 2023 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
Florida Panthers


And how dis it work our for them?

Not every or any GM going to make that mistake. Also Charoit had better offensive numbers than Edmunsson. Not defending that trade but, you are looking at a deadline deal and an off season deal which are definitely different.
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12 mars 2023 à 17 h 57
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Quoting: mikearky
And how dis it work our for them?

Not every or any GM going to make that mistake. Also Charoit had better offensive numbers than Edmunsson. Not defending that trade but, you are looking at a deadline deal and an off season deal which are definitely different.


I’m not saying it was a good trade; you asked me to
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Name one team who trades a 1st in a deep draft for a 3rd pairing defenseman?

And I did.
12 mars 2023 à 18 h 10
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That's getting pretty close for Dubois. i just doubt the Jets would have any interest in Dvorak; as the Jets don't really need a more expensive and worse version of Lowry.

Strudel as an LHD also holds no value to Winnipeg. However, swapping those players for picks or similar prospects that the Jets need could work.
 
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