How is Cirelli defensively at center?

He is an outstanding Defensive Center the issues is his 6.25M by 8 year extension.

Awful deal for Tampa. I would rather have Cirelli, one of Colton/Killorn, and someone like Gabe Fortier on a $1M or less AAV than Colton/Killorn/Beauvillier and a pair of mid/late round picks.

if cirelli is available, what would the ask be from CBJ?

I think the intent was clearing cap to re-sign Stamkos they would not have with Cirelli.
Beau is a pending UFA coming off the books same time Stamoks needs a deal.
They just bought themselves 6.25m long term they can play with to keep Stammer .

Otherwise i dont get this deal

I doubt Stammer gets more than 8.5M when he'll be 35+.

And even if he decides to hose TB for the first time, the cap is going up significantly in 2 years when he needs a new deal.

Ah, that makes some sense at least. I think there's still some ways to get creative with it that don't involve dumping off such a valuable player for such a weak return. Plus, there's always the chance Stamkos gives the veteran discount on a deal that starts with his age-34 season.

Like top 5 in the league without question. Tampa would be fools to do this trade

Still 26m to sign 14 players including Stamkos ,Hagel and when Seabrooks cap relief Contract expire's.
Not to mention whatever carryover there is from this summer signing Jeanot , Ross and 5 other players needing deals.

Even if lets say Jeanot and Ross each take 2m with minimum's x1 to the rest/their replacements.
That's 4m that carry's over against the 26m when Stamkos is UFA with Hagel and 12 others.
Sign Stamkos to 8.5m lets say Hagel to 4m thats 16.5/22m spent on 4/14 players with 5.5m to sign 10 players .
Event on all league minimums that leaves TBL 7/10 players signed on minums before they run outta cap.

TBL would have to skate a 20 man roster all year just to be compliant that's assuming Stamkos, Hagel , Jeanot and Ross all take a paycut .
Thats a tough sell with now LTIR relief from Seabrook that year . They can always acquire Weber's i suppose but but what will be the cost on that?
By that point most of the NHL's Contracts like Seabrooks will be up or expiring with less terms handing out terms as a reward.
Gallagher's the most likely person to be Retire on LTIR with a few years left on his deal at that point but anything can happen and provoke change.

Comfortably Stamkos would have to take 4.5m-5m is without moving anybody vital to be cap compliant with a full roster.

Stammer isn't a pending UFA this summer, his contract ends when the cap goes up. Considering his age and prior commitment to the team it is quite unlikely he strongarms Tampa into some crazy number that they have to move a core player out. He may even take a bit less than what he makes now but he certainly won't take more than Ovi did.

OP did it to keep Killorn but that is just a horrible idea when you factor in effectiveness and age gap. Yes Killorn will often wear a letter and is a team leader but so were Palat and McDonagh. The team has still managed fine without them

Seabrook's contract has zero effect on the Bolts cap. That's not how LTIR works, it doesn't give you cap space. In fact they are better off trading it to a bottom feeder so they can actually accrue cap space over the course of a season. Tampa would have been cap compliant all season long even if Seabrook was not on the roster

Future Selke trophy winner

Super terrible cirelli trade for tampa