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Créé par: JhonnyCanuck
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2023
Publié: 1 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Byfield, Quinton
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Sellers market
Crazier deals have happened this season.
2.
DET
  1. Faber, Brock [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Faber, Spacek, or Masters.
MIN
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Sundqvist, Oskar
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
3.
DET
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Suter, Pius
Détails additionnels:
Oilers get better at defense with a solid defensive center
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $58 245 556 $0 $6 507 500 $24 254 444 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
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UFA - 2
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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878 333 $878 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, C
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
RFA - 1
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1 825 000 $1 825 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 4
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 30
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These all heavily favor the Wings.

That package of Sundqvist + Kubalik + 4th just netted you Kevin Fiala
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 32
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We have 16 forwards on the roster now, so why would we trade one (Byfield) for another (Bertuzzi), especially when all 9 of our top-9 slots are filled? (Never mind the first and second, or the fact that Bertuzzi is a UFA and Byfield is our anticipated #1C of the future.)
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 32
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Yeah la declines just because the market has been crazy doesn't cause la to gift you that
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 43
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All teams not named Detroit pass.

Byfield+LAK 2024 1st round pick+LAK 2023 2nd round pick > Tyler Bertuzzi.

Faber+MN 2023 1st round pick > Kubalik+Sundqvist+DET 2024 4th round pick

Edmontons 2023 2nd round pick > Pius Suter.
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 44
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I mean I don't need to tell you LA and Minny won't do that
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 51
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Kings aren't doing that. Suter gets a 3rd. Minny isn't trading a 1st for that.
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 53
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Quoting: AC14
These all heavily favor the Wings.

That package of Sundqvist + Kubalik + 4th just netted you Kevin Fiala

I just picked the 1st RD prospect i saw. Could be any of the 3
1 mars 2023 à 20 h 53
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Stranger things have happened in trades, but Byfield for Bertuzzi would be terrible for the Kings.

The Minny trade needs work.

Suter to Edmonton for a 2nd? Yeah, with prices high and KH at the helm, I could see it being a 2nd that becomes a 1st if the Oilers make the final.
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1 mars 2023 à 20 h 55
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
We have 16 forwards on the roster now, so why would we trade one (Byfield) for another (Bertuzzi), especially when all 9 of our top-9 slots are filled? (Never mind the first and second, or the fact that Bertuzzi is a UFA and Byfield is our anticipated #1C of the future.)


I assumed the Bert trade would come with an extension.
1 mars 2023 à 20 h 57
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Quoting: tonyhzs
Stranger things have happened in trades, but Byfield for Bertuzzi would be terrible for the Kings.

The Minny trade needs work.

Suter to Edmonton for a 2nd? Yeah, with prices high and KH at the helm, I could see it being a 2nd that becomes a 1st if the Oilers make the final.


I agree it would be bad for the kings but look at what Tampa gave up for Jeannot.

The Minny trade, i just picked the first RD prospect I saw. Probably not gonna be Faber.

Kenny Holland liable to give Detroit a 1st and a prospect for Suter
1 mars 2023 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck
I assumed the Bert trade would come with an extension.


It doesn't make any difference if he comes with a $2.5 million AAV extension; we're not trading Quinton Byfield for him even up.
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 3
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck
I agree it would be bad for the kings but look at what Tampa gave up for Jeannot.

The Minny trade, i just picked the first RD prospect I saw. Probably not gonna be Faber.

Kenny Holland liable to give Detroit a 1st and a prospect for Suter


Tampa had a specific need and they targeted Jeannot. JBB said he knows the numbers when it comes to projecting what those picks will become. Those picks can't help him win Cups right now. Jeannot can. He's going to ride his core until the end and keep kicking the future can down the road.

Think of the movie Thelma and Louise. Tampa is flying over the Grand Canyon right now and it's beautiful. But someday that car has to land and it'll be all over. But until then it's ride or die baby!
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 4
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JBB and Stamkos are in the car. Tampa's future is chasing them.

https://youtu.be/66CP-pq7Cx0
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck
I agree it would be bad for the kings but look at what Tampa gave up for Jeannot.

The Minny trade, i just picked the first RD prospect I saw. Probably not gonna be Faber.

Kenny Holland liable to give Detroit a 1st and a prospect for Suter


The return you propose from LA is far greater of an overpay than the later 1st and bucket of other picks they gave up for a decent depth guy.
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 26
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Quoting: MorHitzSeider
Tampa had a specific need and they targeted Jeannot. JBB said he knows the numbers when it comes to projecting what those picks will become. Those picks can't help him win Cups right now. Jeannot can. He's going to ride his core until the end and keep kicking the future can down the road.

Think of the movie Thelma and Louise. Tampa is flying over the Grand Canyon right now and it's beautiful. But someday that car has to land and it'll be all over. But until then it's ride or die baby!


I get that, but who’s to say other teams aren’t thinking the same. “We’re one guy away from a cup right now.”
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck
I get that, but who’s to say other teams aren’t thinking the same. “We’re one guy away from a cup right now.”


I bet lots of teams are thinking that. Especially in the weak west where if you add the right player you can go on a run. The East teams will beat the snot out of each other and the team who emerges might not have anything left in the tank in the SCF.

Boston will have to make sure they get a sweep in the first round.
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1 mars 2023 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck
I get that, but who’s to say other teams aren’t thinking the same. “We’re one guy away from a cup right now.”


So you think Detroit is 1 player away from a cup?
1 mars 2023 à 23 h 12
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Quoting: aedoran
So you think Detroit is 1 player away from a cup?


Not at all. I’m saying I’m sure there are teams in the league that think they are a Tyler Bertuzzi away from a cup, which is why I could see a team overpaying for him. The “quote” was speaking for other teams.
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2 mars 2023 à 8 h 28
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I don’t see Minnesota trading a 1st for that, let alone adding prospects they really like.
 
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