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Créé par: MarcBergevin69
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 févr. 2023
Publié: 26 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
EDM needs to improve on defence.

Matheson is breaking out as of late (this season and last) and blossoming into an impact player and top 4 d. He has term on a great contract for the rest of his prime.

EDM pays the price to improve their roster during Mcdavid and Draisailt's prime.
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MTL
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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2082 500 000 $83 537 333 $896 000 $1 700 000 $-1 037 333 $
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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798 000 $798 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
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750 000 $750 000 $
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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UFA - 8
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 2
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Matheson is breaking out and signed to term. Montreal probably sees him as an answer in the future rather than someone who will be gone before they are competitive again. I doubt they are looking to move him which is why it's not being talked about.
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26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 5
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Oilers easily decline. Matheson isn't worth their best prospect+2023 1rst
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26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 6
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Oilers easily decline. Matheson isn't worth their best prospect+2023 1rst


Here come the Habs fans to disagree! 🤭
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26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 6
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"Matheson is breaking out! please give us a lot of good stuff for him, I promise this is a good deal for edmonton"
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26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 9
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Quoting: MorHitzSeider
Here come the Habs fans to disagree! 🤭


Most delusional fan base on the app cap freindly thats a nice award for habs fans to enjoy
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
"Matheson is breaking out! please give us a lot of good stuff for him, I promise this is a good deal for edmonton"


Quoting: Leafsfan98
Oilers easily decline. Matheson isn't worth their best prospect+2023 1rst


anyone who's seen mathesons play this year or his analytics from the last 2 seasons know that he's officially broken out. 16 points in 25 games and +9 on horrible MTL. He would be of huge help to EDM for the next 4 seasons. Mcdavid and Drai said they want a puck moving D, and that's what Mathewson is.
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Matheson is breaking out and signed to term. Montreal probably sees him as an answer in the future rather than someone who will be gone before they are competitive again. I doubt they are looking to move him which is why it's not being talked about.


and this is why EDM needs to pay up. He's not on the block because he is obviously of much value to Montreal going forward.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 12
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anyone who's seen mathesons play this year or his analytics from the last 2 seasons know that he's officially broken out. 16 points in 25 games and +9 on horrible MTL. He would be of huge help to EDM for the next 4 seasons. Mcdavid and Drai said they want a puck moving D, and that's what Mathewson is.

and this is why EDM needs to pay up. He's not on the block because he is obviously of much value to Montreal going forward.


lol, +/-
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 12
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Most delusional fan base on the app cap freindly thats a nice award for habs fans to enjoy


your pfp is bunting and you think you should be talking. Nothing delusional about this trade proposal. EDM would benefit more from Matheson than any other Dman on the trade block not named Chychrun.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
lol, +/-

if you don't wanna use +/- how about you check his analytics lmao. They're even more impressive. I had to dumb it down for you.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 16
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if you don't wanna use +/- how about you check his analytics lmao. They're even more impressive. I had to dumb it down for you.


The guy you're talking to is a lost cause. He thinks Holl is better than Makar and Fox.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
your pfp is bunting and you think you should be talking. Nothing delusional about this trade proposal. EDM would benefit more from Matheson than any other Dman on the trade block not named Chychrun.


Tell me why it benifits Edmonton? cuz I dont see how Edmonton would give up Pulju their top prospect and a first for Matheson lol
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 17
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
anyone who's seen mathesons play this year or his analytics from the last 2 seasons know that he's officially broken out. 16 points in 25 games and +9 on horrible MTL. He would be of huge help to EDM for the next 4 seasons. Mcdavid and Drai said they want a puck moving D, and that's what Mathewson is.

and this is why EDM needs to pay up. He's not on the block because he is obviously of much value to Montreal going forward.


Matheson isn't worth EDM's two best assets though
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 17
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if you don't wanna use +/- how about you check his analytics lmao. They're even more impressive. I had to dumb it down for you.


dude, if you have actual stats that are useful use those. The fastest way to have anyone who understands stats stop taking you seriously is to use +/- like it means something
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 18
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Tell me why it benifits Edmonton? cuz I dont see how Edmonton would give up Pulju their top prospect and a first for Matheson lol


if you think Pulju is anything more than a cap dump in this trade you're not worth talking to.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 19
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The guy you're talking to is a lost cause. He thinks Holl is better than Makar and Fox.


remember when you blocked me because you couldnt come up with a way to defend your point about Nylander being bad?
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 20
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The guy you're talking to is a lost cause. He thinks Holl is better than Makar and Fox.


Not all Leafs fans think that BTW
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
dude, if you have actual stats that are useful use those. The fastest way to have anyone who understands stats stop taking you seriously is to use +/- like it means something


Matheson is above 80% war for dmen and is trending upwards the last 3 seasons. I've also eye tested him for his 25 games with us this season and he's legit. He's proven that he can handle first pair competition (something he wasn't doing in PIT) and has excelled.

Look if EDM doesn't trade for him so be it, he'll be huge in MTL for the next 4 years on that cheap deal.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 22
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if you think Pulju is anything more than a cap dump in this trade you're not worth talking to.


Hes a player in desprate need of a fresh start thats fs and he is basically, That can be the start to a Matheson trade but I highly doubt that the Oilers would add Holloway and a first in that deal lmao. What im trying to say is hes not worth all that I see habs fans come on there and propose these ridiculous low ball offers u aint the first bud
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 22
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It’s not that I think the value is off, I just can’t see the Oilers moving for another defenseman with a high cost and term.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 23
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Matheson is above 80% war for dmen and is trending upwards the last 3 seasons. I've always eye tested him for his 25 games with us this season and he's legit. He's proven that he can handle first pair competition (something he wasn't doing in PIT) and has excelled.

Look is EDM doesn't trade for him so be it, he'll be huge in MTL for the next 4 years on that cheap deal.


Was that so hard? Seriously you know this and somehow dont know that plus minus is the worst individual stat there is for a skater?
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 23
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
if you think Pulju is anything more than a cap dump in this trade you're not worth talking to.


He’s basically just expensive Gurianov.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 25
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Was that so hard? Seriously you know this and somehow dont know that plus minus is the worst individual stat there is for a skater?


Being a bad metric and being absolutely useless in every case or two different things. What OP is saying makes sense. On a team like Montreal, one would expect Matheson to have an awful plus minus. Instead, he’s got +9. It doesn’t make or break the deal by itself, but it’s a useful piece of information.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 26
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Hes a player in desprate need of a fresh start thats fs and he is basically, That can be the start to a Matheson trade but I highly doubt that the Oilers would add Holloway and a first in that deal lmao. What im trying to say is hes not worth all that I see habs fans come on there and propose these ridiculous low ball offers u aint the first bud


do everyone a favour and log off.

Puljujarvi is a waivers player, not a starter in a Matheson trade.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 28
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Was that so hard? Seriously you know this and somehow dont know that plus minus is the worst individual stat there is for a skater?


The hell is your obsession with +/-. Sure, its not super effective but I'd love for you to try and find me another habs dman with a positive +/-. It still holds some weight given context.

Edit: just checked myself, try and find ANY player on MTL.
26 févr. 2023 à 22 h 28
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do everyone a favour and log off.

Puljujarvi is a waivers player, not a starter in a Matheson trade.


neither is Holloway and a 1st lol
 
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