SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Preds Sell Big

Créé par: jl639s
Équipe: 2022-23 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2023
Publié: 25 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Foote, Nolan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Niederreiter, Nino (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
2.
NSH
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Ekholm, Mattias (2 000 000 $ retained)
3.
NSH
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
4.
NSH
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Schaefer, Reid
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de NSH
Logo de NJD
Logo de CAR
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de SJS
Logo de TOR
Logo de NSH
Logo de TOR
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
2024
Logo de NSH
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
Logo de NJD
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
Logo de NSH
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $72 338 600 $0 $377 500 $10 161 400 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Predators de Nashville
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Predators de Nashville
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
874 125 $874 125 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 857 143 $2 857 143 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Predators de Nashville
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Predators de Nashville
9 059 000 $9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Predators de Nashville
733 333 $733 333 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Predators de Nashville
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
787 500 $787 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Predators de Nashville
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 27
#1
n.1 Topias Vilen fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2021
Messages: 5,924
Mentions "j'aime": 2,577
Devils decline, not worth it at that price
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 28
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: oct. 2022
Messages: 5,343
Mentions "j'aime": 3,416
Carolina wont pay a first for Jeannot, and we could retain half salary for Nino and get just a first.

I don’t like that Saros trade
gmgb a aimé ceci.
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 30
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,288
Mentions "j'aime": 3,037
I feel like Ekholm could get more. Kerfoot is just cap going back, Robertson is basically dead in the water due to multiple injuries derailing his career. A 1st and a 3rd isn't getting much for 4 seasons of Ekholm at 4 mil aav.
Just_A_Guess et gmgb a aimé ceci.
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 30
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 3,616
Mentions "j'aime": 3,044
I like Jeannot but not for a first
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 30
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 723
Mentions "j'aime": 178
i hope ottawa makes a move and acquires Fabbro
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 47
#6
Démarrer sujet
Smashville13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 116
Mentions "j'aime": 98
Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
Carolina wont pay a first for Jeannot, and we could retain half salary for Nino and get just a first.

I don’t like that Saros trade


The odds of a pick 25-32 (where Carolina likely picks from) becoming a full time NHL player is below 50%. It would be a smart trade for both teams.

As far as Saros, the Preds should trade him and they should ask for a haul. He’s a top 5 goalie but he’s useless to the Preds right now. All he is doing is single-handedly keeping the Preds from improving their draft spot.
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 49
#7
Démarrer sujet
Smashville13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 116
Mentions "j'aime": 98
Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils decline, not worth it at that price


Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils decline, not worth it at that price


Def an over ask but with retaining salary they would want an over pay. NJ might not be the right target to try to get that overpay
25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 52
#8
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: oct. 2022
Messages: 5,343
Mentions "j'aime": 3,416
Quoting: jl639s
The odds of a pick 25-32 (where Carolina likely picks from) becoming a full time NHL player is below 50%. It would be a smart trade for both teams.

As far as Saros, the Preds should trade him and they should ask for a haul. He’s a top 5 goalie but he’s useless to the Preds right now. All he is doing is single-handedly keeping the Preds from improving their draft spot.


If we’re moving Saros i’d prefer a blue chip prospect, which we aren’t getting here.
gmgb a aimé ceci.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 4
#9
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 2,441
Mentions "j'aime": 1,587
EDM refuses. Even if Saros is a great goalie, they'd be stuck in a situation where they'd have 3 goalies occupying 12.6mil of their cap and will have spent 3 1sts and two middle-6 Ws to do it. Fabbro brings nothing to the table that adds value to the deal. If you want the 3 1sts for Saros, Campbell will have to be going back the other way which is why such a deal for Saros wouldn't work between the two teams.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 5
#10
Démarrer sujet
Smashville13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 116
Mentions "j'aime": 98
Quoting: SupremeBone
EDM refuses. Even if Saros is a great goalie, they'd be stuck in a situation where they'd have 3 goalies occupying 12.6mil of their cap and will have spent 3 1sts and two middle-6 Ws to do it. Fabbro brings nothing to the table that adds value to the deal. If you want the 3 1sts for Saros, Campbell will have to be going back the other way which is why such a deal for Saros wouldn't work between the two teams.


I’m fine with that
25 févr. 2023 à 17 h 17
#11
n.1 Topias Vilen fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2021
Messages: 5,924
Mentions "j'aime": 2,577
Quoting: jl639s
Def an over ask but with retaining salary they would want an over pay. NJ might not be the right target to try to get that overpay


Seeing the trade now... oof. Even less than I would have offered
25 févr. 2023 à 19 h 36
#12
Me
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 863
Mentions "j'aime": 254
Quoting: Byrr
I feel like Ekholm could get more. Kerfoot is just cap going back, Robertson is basically dead in the water due to multiple injuries derailing his career. A 1st and a 3rd isn't getting much for 4 seasons of Ekholm at 4 mil aav.


I’d agree with most of what you’re saying but Robertson still has real value, he was ranked as the leafs second best prospect by Scott Wheeler at the Athletic after his injury and still has an impressive resume for being what? 20 years old.
25 févr. 2023 à 19 h 39
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,288
Mentions "j'aime": 3,037
Modifié 25 févr. 2023 à 19 h 58
Quoting: Leafsleaks123
I’d agree with most of what you’re saying but Robertson still has real value, he was ranked as the leafs second best prospect by Scott Wheeler at the Athletic after his injury and still has an impressive resume for being what? 20 years old.


Robertson has a non-existent resume for a 20 year old. He hasn't been able to do anything at the NHL level despite multiple opportunities. To give you an idea, he has 7 points across 31 games. Assuming an 82 game season, that would be a 19 point player and it's not like he's scoring goals either. Robertson is nothing until he shows otherwise.

As for the OP, got to imagine Ekholm's ask would start at the Muzzin comparable. A 1st, a good prospect and a lesser prospect. Probably looks something like the Leafs 2024 1st, Topi Niemala and for the lesser prospect I'd guess Nashville would want to go younger if they are selling guys like Ekholm so I'd throw out a Nick Moldenhauer. And thats before asking for 3 more seasons of retention which is probably just unworkable as far as cost goes.
25 févr. 2023 à 20 h 9
#14
Me
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 863
Mentions "j'aime": 254
Quoting: Byrr
Robertson has a non-existent resume for a 20 year old. He hasn't been able to do anything at the NHL level despite multiple opportunities. To give you an idea, he has 7 points across 31 games. Assuming an 82 game season, that would be a 19 point player and it's not like he's scoring goals either. Robertson is nothing until he shows otherwise.

As for the OP, got to imagine Ekholm's ask would start at the Muzzin comparable. A 1st, a good prospect and a lesser prospect. Probably looks something like the Leafs 2024 1st, Topi Niemala and for the lesser prospect I'd guess Nashville would want to go younger if they are selling guys like Ekholm so I'd throw out a Nick Moldenhauer. And thats before asking for 3 more seasons of retention which is probably just unworkable as far as cost goes.


Like I said I agree that Ekholms value is higher, but I’m just wondering why the hate for Robertson? How many 21 year olds have had multiple at or near PPG seasons at the AHL level in addition to dominating the OHL. Injuries suck and he hasn’t played great in the NHL yet but even this year he’s at a near 30 point pace over an 82 game season which would be great production for a kid who plays 10 minutes a night. Give him a healthy season and a real opportunity and he’s a 15 goal 35 point guy minimum with the potential to be much more.
25 févr. 2023 à 21 h 52
#15
tmljk22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 296
Mentions "j'aime": 109
Quoting: Byrr
Robertson has a non-existent resume for a 20 year old. He hasn't been able to do anything at the NHL level despite multiple opportunities. To give you an idea, he has 7 points across 31 games. Assuming an 82 game season, that would be a 19 point player and it's not like he's scoring goals either. Robertson is nothing until he shows otherwise.

As for the OP, got to imagine Ekholm's ask would start at the Muzzin comparable. A 1st, a good prospect and a lesser prospect. Probably looks something like the Leafs 2024 1st, Topi Niemala and for the lesser prospect I'd guess Nashville would want to go younger if they are selling guys like Ekholm so I'd throw out a Nick Moldenhauer. And thats before asking for 3 more seasons of retention which is probably just unworkable as far as cost goes.


Quoting: Leafsleaks123
Like I said I agree that Ekholms value is higher, but I’m just wondering why the hate for Robertson? How many 21 year olds have had multiple at or near PPG seasons at the AHL level in addition to dominating the OHL. Injuries suck and he hasn’t played great in the NHL yet but even this year he’s at a near 30 point pace over an 82 game season which would be great production for a kid who plays 10 minutes a night. Give him a healthy season and a real opportunity and he’s a 15 goal 35 point guy minimum with the potential to be much more.



I'm with @Leafsleaks123 here. Production is actually what's in Toronto's favour when it comes to negotiating deals with Robertson, it's the injury history/risk that will be the issue. For example, Dylan Holloway with Edmonton holds good value and hes only 12 days younger than Robertson. If you compare the two's production at all levels, Robertson has been better. Mind you this is in a much smaller sample size because of the injuries, but still, my overarching point holds true. To right off Robertson as a prospect at 21 years old due to his lack of NHL production is a bit of an overreaction. If you are to argue writing him off because of the injuries, then I think you may be able to make a better case
26 févr. 2023 à 23 h 35
#16
Démarrer sujet
Smashville13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 116
Mentions "j'aime": 98
Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Seeing the trade now... oof. Even less than I would have offered


Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Seeing the trade now... oof. Even less than I would have offered


Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Seeing the trade now... oof. Even less than I would have offered


Quoting: Canesfan21_
I like Jeannot but not for a first


With the Nino and Jeannot trades now official I can say I know nothing of how GMs value players
Tintin a aimé ceci.
27 févr. 2023 à 16 h 25
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 3,616
Mentions "j'aime": 3,044
Quoting: jl639s
With the Nino and Jeannot trades now official I can say I know nothing of how GMs value players


I like Jeannot but certainly not for an entire draft class plus a prospect
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage