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Why the Kings Cant Afford your Proposed Goalie Trade

Créé par: tryger
Équipe: 2022-23 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2023
Publié: 21 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Kings won't waive Copley (17-3-1, .913%): As the Kings goalie with the most wins and reupped for next season, they won't risk losing him to waivers

Kings don't trade or waive Quick (10-12-4, .878%): As the Kings longest serving goaltender it would be an absolute insult to either trade or waive Quick so close to the end of his tenure with the LA Kings, especially after showing their team how well they treat long-tenured players a la Dustin Brown.

Kings are unlikely to move Petersen (9-5-3, 868%): The Kings have been reluctant to move a 1st, Petersen would already be back up if not for the strong play of Copley, I believe they will give Petersen another go.

Kings are unlikely to trade for an AHL goalie they can call up: Both Petersen and Vilalta are top-10 SV% goalies in the AHL, the Kings already have depth in goal, they just need one of Quick or Petersen to return to NHL 1A/1B level.

Lack of cap room/Chychrun Potential Trade: The Kings need to clear enough cap room to make a goalie trade, which would mean one of the above would need to occur to make such a trade work. The Kings will need to move Walker, Lemieux and/or Grundstrom to make a Chychrun trade work, after that how would they even have room for a goalie trade?
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21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 1
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Just looking at the cap for next season, Chychrun just might not be a luxury the Kings want to afford . Anderson just signed for 3.25m raise, Moore over 2m raise, and beside Quick no big expiring contracts.
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21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 2
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Just looking at the cap for next season, Chychrun just might not be a luxury the Kings want to afford . Anderson just signed for 3.25m raise, Moore over 2m raise, and beside Quick no big expiring contracts.


Have to reup Vilardi and Kupari as well. They would both need to take basically nothing and there would be no improvement in goal.
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21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 37
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Have to reup Vilardi and Kupari as well. They would both need to take basically nothing and there would be no improvement in goal.


I wouldn't be surprised if Vilardi or Kupari would have been included in a Chychrun+Vejmelka deal if it was happening without Clarke. There's a rumor that ARZ wanted either Debrusk or Swayman + a 1st + one of a top prospect+ some other stuff.

I guess dealing Vilardi would make things easier for Blake but the overpay would be ridiculous and money would be very tight even then.
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21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 40
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I wouldn't be surprised if Vilardi or Kupari would have been included in a Chychrun+Vejmelka deal if it was happening without Clarke. There's a rumor that ARZ wanted either Debrusk or Swayman + a 1st + one of a top prospect+ some other stuff.

I guess dealing Vilardi would make things easier for Blake but the overpay would be ridiculous and money would be very tight even then.


I don't love it, but it makes sense, the Kings forward group is stacked and more are coming. Vilardi has injury history and his value has never been higher.
21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 50
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I don't love it, but it makes sense, the Kings forward group is stacked and more are coming. Vilardi has injury history and his value has never been higher.


Yeah, problem is the ask is probably higher for LA once they add Vejmelka and Petersen to the deal.

If it's Vilardi+Turcotte+a 1st+one of their RD prospects + a 3rd + Petersen for Chychrun+Vejmelka (Walker dealt elsewhere), might be worth it depending on who the RD is. If I was Blake, I would try to deal guys who do have a bit of an injury history in the past for Chychrun instead of their other prospects. The package is massive, but I feel like in this deal Arz would still want Clarke.
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21 févr. 2023 à 12 h 56
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Yeah, problem is the ask is probably higher for LA once they add Vejmelka and Petersen to the deal.

If it's Vilardi+Turcotte+a 1st+one of their RD prospects + a 3rd + Petersen for Chychrun+Vejmelka (Walker dealt elsewhere), might be worth it depending on who the RD is. If I was Blake, I would try to deal guys who do have a bit of an injury history in the past for Chychrun instead of their other prospects. The package is massive, but I feel like in this deal Arz would still want Clarke.


The hope is, if LA is the last man standing AZ will need to make the move that provides the most value. With the Bruins out supposedly getting Gavrikov, I think the real big spenders for Chychrun would be LA and Edmonton. Fewer suitors the more likely we could see Arizona take somewhat of a discount. But Blake just might stay pat with how close the Pacific is.
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21 févr. 2023 à 13 h 4
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The hope is, if LA is the last man standing AZ will need to make the move that provides the most value. With the Bruins out supposedly getting Gavrikov, I think the real big spenders for Chychrun would be LA and Edmonton. Fewer suitors the more likely we could see Arizona take somewhat of a discount. But Blake just might stay pat with how close the Pacific is.


There are rumors that the Blues could be in play for either Chychrun or Meier (maybe both), that would be a intradivisonal trade so could be super costly for the Blues, but I think Snuggerud + two 2023 1sts would be very attractive. I think ARZ would be intrigued in having both Snuggerud and Cooley. Chychrun wants to go to a playoff team, but CBJ is still interested and once they move Gavrikov, they will have a 2023 1st that they would be willing to part with.

I do think the ask will drop some in terms of not necessarily having to give up certain top prospects, but the price might still be hefty.
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There are rumors that the Blues could be in play for either Chychrun or Meier (maybe both), that would be a intradivisonal trade so could be super costly for the Blues, but I think Snuggerud + two 2023 1sts would be very attractive. I think ARZ would be intrigued in having both Snuggerud and Cooley. Chychrun wants to go to a playoff team, but CBJ is still interested and once they move Gavrikov, they will have a 2023 1st that they would be willing to part with.

I do think the ask will drop some in terms of not necessarily having to give up certain top prospects, but the price might still be hefty.


Meier 100%, but Chychrun for 2 years, I don’t know, too much risk. Honestly the Kings aren’t even in must win now territory, I feel the pressure is there for the Oilers and Leafs more so at this point for Chychrun, but they won’t answer the asking price.
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