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Stl sends both Parayko and barbashev to Edmonton

Créé par: CantStopWontStop
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2023
Publié: 20 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I like Edmonton but holy heck there is some cap apocalypse on this roster………

The only way I could find to make this work is below.

Assuming player in player out, cap in cap out.

Parayko is a 1st and Bouchard.
Barbashev is Yamamoto and Puljujarvi’s cap relief


The rest is to make the trade work. Sorry oiler fans but I’m assigning negative value to Puljujarvi - not worth the qualifying offer which will send him UFA, but have to pay him the rest of the year. Ya tricked us once with Yakopov. That one was your free pass.

So this isn’t going to happen.

But I wanted to see what it would cost to do it.
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  1. Barbashev, Ivan
  2. Bortuzzo, Robert
  3. Leivo, Josh
  4. Parayko, Colton
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Max retention Barbashev
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20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 32
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i wouldn’t trade bouchard for parayko one for one
20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: bagelbob
i wouldn’t trade bouchard for parayko one for one


I got a ton of grief from my blues bros for not asking for him in previous threads. I was building around Parayko for ceci, Puljujarvi, and picks to even it out. Works capwise 🤷‍♂️

I hear ya.
20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 37
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We’re not trading Parayko unless it’s for another good player with term and certainly not for multiple cap dumps.
20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 41
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We’re not trading Parayko unless it’s for another good player with term and certainly not for multiple cap dumps.


Unfortunately the only way to deal with Edmonton is cap dumps - they need to find a way out of it bad. I don’t know how they get out to be honest.

Bouchard is not a cap dump however. And neither is Yamamoto. And neither is ceci. In the first case that’s a very good asset. In the other two cases they aren’t trash - also not core pieces. Ceci would be nice on the Blues as he is ufa 2 seasons after this - gives the team time to figure rhd out with a warm body during retool.
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20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 43
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Meh, trading for Parayko when you have massive cap issues is a dumb idea. Naturally I’m sure Ken Holland is all over it, though.
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20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 45
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Meh, trading for Parayko when you have massive cap issues is a dumb idea. Naturally I’m sure Ken Holland is all over it, though.


Karlsson costs almost 2 Parayko’s a year ;P
20 févr. 2023 à 15 h 54
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Army collecting 1sts like Pokemon's. 🤭
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20 févr. 2023 à 16 h 13
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
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you cant lose the draft lottery if you have every pick in the draft lottery
20 févr. 2023 à 16 h 13
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Personally I don't really love or necessarily like the idea of adding Yamamoto, Puljujaarvi screams Paajarvi to me would claim him on waivers with where we're currently at and certainly take him back in a trade if the value in doing so going the other way was essentially a wash or just a necessity out of cap constraints for Edmonton. I think Ceci is useful to a degree, don't love his contract, nor the player but I think he could be useful in a scenario like this. Bouchard is where this all hinges. I think he's going to essentially have a career like Faulk, which isn't bad at all, but I think he's going to always be a better offensive asset as opposed to a defensive one.

This could be feasible for the Blues if we changed the way we deploy our defense and instead run it as just rolling two pairs and not having a pair that's labled as a shutdown pair which is the crux of alot of our issues since we cannot for the life of us since Jbo retired find a capable LD who can handle the minutes and do well in that role both moving the puck and defensively.

if this happened, I'd be ok with it, but not thrilled. We most likely wont be able to replace Parayko or what he brings in terms of sheltering the rest of our defense or at least having the ability to do so if given a suitable partner for many years. Ceci somewhat softens the blow, but it's going to be ugly for a while.

Personally i'd like to think that we'd heavily explore moving Faulk, Krug or leddy first. Adding another 1st is great if we're going to work towards moving at least a few of them for more near term help or move up with them which I think we likely will try to do.
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you cant lose the draft lottery if you have every pick in the draft lottery


He just might! I love what he's doing.
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20 févr. 2023 à 16 h 48
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Personally I don't really love or necessarily like the idea of adding Yamamoto, Puljujaarvi screams Paajarvi to me would claim him on waivers with where we're currently at and certainly take him back in a trade if the value in doing so going the other way was essentially a wash or just a necessity out of cap constraints for Edmonton. I think Ceci is useful to a degree, don't love his contract, nor the player but I think he could be useful in a scenario like this. Bouchard is where this all hinges. I think he's going to essentially have a career like Faulk, which isn't bad at all, but I think he's going to always be a better offensive asset as opposed to a defensive one.

This could be feasible for the Blues if we changed the way we deploy our defense and instead run it as just rolling two pairs and not having a pair that's labled as a shutdown pair which is the crux of alot of our issues since we cannot for the life of us since Jbo retired find a capable LD who can handle the minutes and do well in that role both moving the puck and defensively.

if this happened, I'd be ok with it, but not thrilled. We most likely wont be able to replace Parayko or what he brings in terms of sheltering the rest of our defense or at least having the ability to do so if given a suitable partner for many years. Ceci somewhat softens the blow, but it's going to be ugly for a while.

Personally i'd like to think that we'd heavily explore moving Faulk, Krug or leddy first. Adding another 1st is great if we're going to work towards moving at least a few of them for more near term help or move up with them which I think we likely will try to do.


It could possibly be fun to have Chychrun Parayko as a pairing. Complimentary in a sense, and both minute gobblers.

But at what cost.

I’d guess we’d have to pay to get rid of somebody on the left side due to their cap. I actually don’t mind Leddy, Krug, but I do mind the 10.5 million against the cap from them.

Perhaps it could work if the money came from somewhere else, then buyout leddy’s final year when Chychruns next contract is due.

That entire plan blows up however thanks to arizona giving him a contract that walks him to free agency at 27. Stupid contract. I hope if Doug Armstrong does go the Chychrun route that Chychrun isn’t set on some specific market for his free agency years. Would be a pisser if we gave up what he will cost and then he walks to LA or something.
20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Ehh Yama and Pulju does not get you Barby. Not even close.
 
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