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Fair trades and SJ

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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 19 févr. 2023
Publié: 19 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Since we’ve learned certain SJ fans just go off their feelings and feelings alone. I feel the need to post this prospect value chart so they can fully understand why certain players are OFF limits:

McKeen's
(includes NHLers)
Hughes #2
Nemec #10
Holtz #15
Eklund #26
Gritsyuk #63

THW mid-season list

Hughes #1
Nemec #5
Eklund #7
Holtz #8
Casey #55
Bordeleau #61
Gritsyuk #79
Foote #89
Mukhamadullin #96

Corey Pronman's U23 list
(includes all U23 in NHL)
Hughes #14
Nemec #40
Eklund #44
Mukhamadullin #68
Holtz #72
Bordeleau #89
Gritsyuk #147

Scott Wheeler

Hughes #2
Nemec #4
Holtz #22
Eklund #23
(Bordeleau, Mukhamadullin, Casey were all in #51-100 mentions)

This will give you select few fans guidance on what is actually a fair deal instead of just crossing your arms, stomping your feet and screaming “I WANT HUGHES” “I WANT NEMEC”. If you don’t wanna do fair business, go kick rocks because we’re done with this BS.
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  1. Casey, Seamus [Liste de réserve]
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 771 625 $0 $482 500 $1 728 375 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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874 125 $874 125 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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19 févr. 2023 à 2 h 51
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I hope this value charts will trend around deadline, Im very interested to see this from other fanbases.
19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 6
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I want Hughes! I want Nemec! I want Jay Pandolfo!
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19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 9
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
I want Hughes! I want Nemec! I want Jay Pandolfo!


Pando might not move as well as he once did these days! 😂
19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 10
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Pando might not move as well as he once did these days! 😂


Ok. I'll settle for kicked in the junk voice Mister Unibrow Bobby Holik.
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19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 11
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Ok. I'll settle for kicked in the junk voice Mister Unibrow Bobby Holik.


Ooo that’s a tough one are we talking Devils Holik or Rangers Holik?! Dealbreaker there
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19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 12
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Ooo that’s a tough one are we talking Devils Holik or Rangers Holik?! Dealbreaker there


Holik likely weighs about 350 pounds these days.
19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 13
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Holik likely weighs about 350 pounds these days.


Owns a chain of Five Guys down the shore. Man’s gotta eat.
19 févr. 2023 à 3 h 20
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Owns a chain of Five Guys down the shore. Man’s gotta eat.


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19 févr. 2023 à 4 h 53
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Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him
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19 févr. 2023 à 5 h 13
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


You got it, I’d shake your hand and call it a deal! I’m motivated to get this over with
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19 févr. 2023 à 5 h 39
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Quoting: RV23
You got it, I’d shake your hand and call it a deal! I’m motivated to get this over with


Me too. though I would be lying if I said I’d be happy. I want to keep Meier.
19 févr. 2023 à 5 h 42
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Me too. though I would be lying if I said I’d be happy. I want to keep Meier.


I wholeheartedly understand that, giving away a top player is never something that should be well received. Look what happened when we lost Parise for nothing. Lost a whole decade because of that debacle.
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19 févr. 2023 à 6 h 14
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I wholeheartedly understand that, giving away a top player is never something that should be well received. Look what happened when we lost Parise for nothing. Lost a whole decade because of that debacle.


on the flip side imagine the sharks lining up
Meier Hertl Bedard!
obviously that’s an insane long shot
hell I’d be happy with Meier Hertl Smith (will smith RHC)
but Eklund Hertl Holtz doesn’t have that same firepower.
19 févr. 2023 à 8 h 32
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It’s a good list you got there.
Reminds me of this one
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19 févr. 2023 à 9 h 21
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
on the flip side imagine the sharks lining up
Meier Hertl Bedard!
obviously that’s an insane long shot
hell I’d be happy with Meier Hertl Smith (will smith RHC)
but Eklund Hertl Holtz doesn’t have that same firepower.


My personal conspiracy theory is that Gary Bettman will not allow a team other than the Coyotes win Bedard because he refuses to let his Arizona pet project die
19 févr. 2023 à 9 h 33
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It's not only Sharks fans, there are a lot of people on this site who don't have the slighest inkling about true deadline trade values who only go by feelings when they are commenting on trade proposals, they must not read any rumoured reports from insiders or remember any previous deadline trades. My favourite comment is "________ declines", no discussion at all, they just announce that you are wrong and they are right haha.

The selling teams fans tend to really go off their rockers overvaluing their players and get amplified more (and a lot of leaf fans are part of the problem here I am well aware haha).

A lot of trolling goes on, and in their comments they announce their demands are right and you are wrong, lol. Feelings are the new facts in today's society unfortunately.
19 févr. 2023 à 9 h 51
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.
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19 févr. 2023 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


I like casey more than Mukh specifically timeline wise bc I don't see a spot for mukh in the next year or two but Casey's timeline should be more like 3 years
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19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 14
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
It’s a good list you got there.
Reminds me of this one


Yes obviously it’s the list you put together for us last week, I would love to know where the Canes and Sabres prospects fall into the Pronman, Wheeler, and Mckeen lists. I’d assume it’s not drastically far from what THW put together. Sucks that you gotta have subscriptions to read them.
19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.


Quoting: dgibb10
I like casey more than Mukh specifically timeline wise bc I don't see a spot for mukh in the next year or two but Casey's timeline should be more like 3 years


I prefer Mukhamadullin






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19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 39
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My personal conspiracy theory is that Gary Bettman will not allow a team other than the Coyotes win Bedard because he refuses to let his Arizona pet project die


except I think the best thing for Hockey would be Bedard in a large market like Chicago or Montreal! we will see i guess
19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I prefer Mukhamadullin








They're both studs but I worry Mukh might end up in a situation where he's ready and there just isn't a spot for him
19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 44
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.


this comment makes no sense. if you like him more than Mukhamadullin why are you trying to keep mukh and trade Casey?
19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 50
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Yes obviously it’s the list you put together for us last week, I would love to know where the Canes and Sabres prospects fall into the Pronman, Wheeler, and Mckeen lists. I’d assume it’s not drastically far from what THW put together. Sucks that you gotta have subscriptions to read them.


Keep in mind, they are all different methodologies and criteria, so hard to compare X on one list vs Y on another.

BUF - Pronman
31. Jack Quinn
47. Jiri Kulich
52. John-Jason Peterka
76. Peyton Krebs
81. Matthew Savoie
141. Noah Ostlund
145. Isak Rosen
151. Devon Levi

BUF - Wheeler
10. Matthew Savoie
26. Jiri Kulich
44. Noah Ostlund
HM. Isak Rosen

BUF - McKeens
11. Jack Quinn
19. Matthew Savoie
22. John-Jason Peterka
34. Devon Levi
47. Noah Ostlund
50. Jiri Kulich
75. Prokhor Poltapov
120. Isak Rosen
127. Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
145. Ryan Johnson
156. Erik Portillo
185. Alexander Kisakov
244. Josh Bloom
261. Oskari Laaksonen
280. Mats Lindgren

BUF - EP Rinkside
17. Jack Quinn
21. John-Jason Peterka
24. Matthew Savoie
79. Noah Ostlund
83. Jiri Kulich
85. Isak Rosen

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CAR - Pronman
22. Alexander Nikishin
24. Seth Jarvis
116. Scott Morrow

CAR - Wheeler
38. Alexander Nikishin
39. Scott Morrow

CAR - McKeens
71. Pyotr Kochetkov
74. Scott Morrow
97. Jack Drury
130. Alexander Nikishin
136. Ryan Suzuki
143. Gleb Trikozov
176. Alexander Perevalov
181. Ville Koivunen
196. Aleksi Heimosalmi
242. Noel Gunler
249. Vasili Ponomaryov

CAR - EP Rinkside
63. Scott Morrow
64. Gleb Trikozov
69. Ville Koivunen
98. Jack Drury
114. Alexander Nikishin
115. Aleksi Heimosalmi

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NJD - Pronman
14. Luke Hughes
40. Simon Nemec
45. Dawson Mercer
68. Shakir Mukhamadullin
72. Alexander Holtz
137. Nolan Foote
147. Arseni Gritsyuk

NJD - Wheeler
2. Luke Hughes
4. Simon Nemec
22. Alexander Holtz
HM. Shakir Mukhamadullin
HM. Seamus Casey

NJD - McKeens
2. Luke Hughes
10. Simon Nemec
15. Alexander Holtz
63. Arseni Gritsyuk
114. Shakir Mukhamadullin
129. Fabian Zetterlund
148. Reilly Walsh
165. Nolan Foote
174. Nico Daws
177. Seamus Casey
191. Tyce Thompson
217. Kevin Bahl
277. Michael Vukojevic
295. Nikita Okhotiuk

NJD - EP Rinkside
15. Luke Hughes
16. Alexander Holtz
18. Simon Nemec
107. Shakir Mukhamadullin
19 févr. 2023 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
except I think the best thing for Hockey would be Bedard in a large market like Chicago or Montreal! we will see i guess


It’s very much a conspiracy theory on my part.
I would actually love to see Bedard land in California too. SJ or (I’m sorry) Anaheim would really be great places to see a generational guy like him land
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