The Oilers aren't cup favourites. That title goes to Colorado (still with the injuries)

such an over pay for kalrsson. people forget he's a 32 year old, making 11.5 mill for the next 4 years. oilers have to resign drai and mcdcvid in 3-4 years. do you want a 36 year old EK eating their salary and losing them in FA?? KArlsson had 22 points 2 years ago. karlsson hasn't played a full season since 2015. karlsson has NEVER been above a point per page in his career until this year. he's 32. im all for going all in... but far better options than EK at a way cheaper contract

Karlsson is gonna win the Norris. There literally is no better option. His advanced stats show that this isn't luck or a fluke. He's the real deal and with 4 million in retention you can't pass on a norris winner for $7.5. It's time for edmonton to make a big move after all of these years

There's 3.75 Mil retained here. You'd have Karl at a 7.75 which is absolutely insane value, even for his age. And you have to put his past point production in context. He was putting up near point per game seasons when the leagues top scorers had sub 100 points. He's not only on pace to break point per game, he's on pace to break 110 points.

And yes this is his first season of having consistent health in the past 5+ years, and he looks great. His last injury was a broken finger from a blocked shot, not a high ankle sprain or recurring shoulder issue so the injury issues are way overblown.

yes almost 10 years ago when Jamie Benn won the Art Ross in 2015.... how are you comparing 10 years ago on a 32 year old hahaha. yes I compared the last 2-3 years. since he's been in his 30s. since he's been on the 11.5 mil contract. and yeah I agree getting him at 7.5 is unreal value, but we have a 9.25 Defenceman. I think people think his value is much higher than it actually is. im all for the oilers making a move. im sick of holland sitting around doing nothing and being a few pieces short of a potential Stanley cup appearance last year. but Idk about adding an expensive, injury prone, 32 year old Defenceman, who's having an almost fluke year, with 4 years left on his contract.

Nothing about this year is a fluke. He has elite counting stats but also elite micro stats. He showed flashes of it last year too before injury. Most defenseman in this era after not point per game, in fact not even Josi, Makar or Fox are PPG. What Karlsson is doing this year is unprecedented since Paul Coffey was playing, it's incredible. Even his defensive stats are very high end this year, he's in the top twenty in defensive advanced stats this year. If he stays healthy going forward Karlsson at around 8-8.5 mil a year is an absolute bargain. No PP in the league could even touch Edmonton's.

Again, it's not a fluke. The past 5 seasons he's only had one year where he had below a .5 ppg average. Every other year is above that. He's healthy and 100% now and dominating in San Jose. If he can get 110 points in San Jose then imagine him with Mcdavid and Drai. It's 100% worth the price.

I agree with you. but he's 32. of you think he's gonna do this for another 4 years when he hasn't done anything even close to it yet in his 13 year career?

The thing is, Karlsson's 5v5 stats are #1 in the league. No one is better. The Oilers have been looking to improve their 5v5 play and this is the perfect way.

value seems pretty fair here with the two 1sts and Bouchard, though would want the retention dropped at least under 3m unless Bourgault is also dropped in

except for when he's 32, and hasn't done anything close to this in his 13 year career. I agree it would be prime time Tv. I want him on the oilers. but at this price is so high. hoping he lives up to his price every year is scary when he hasn't lived up to his price in 5 years until now.

Who cares about his age. 36 is not insanely old. He's almost 33 and on pace for 110 points so by the time he's 36 he could still be around ppg or higher. But on the Oilers with Mcdavid I think his stats will stay the same until his contract ends regardless of age

When he's on the ice, he's extremely dangerous. There isn't a single area where he is lacking.

That said he isn't going to come cheap. Bouchard and probably even Bourgault will have to be included.

he's never been a PPG or higher in his career until now

What is with the fixation with EK? The guy is a horrible dman and finally puts up some points after how many years?

Why would any team trade this kind of package for him?

False - that title is BOS or TB

The league scoring has increased as a whole. he was putting up almost point per game seasons when there were no 100 pt players.

You are drinking some serious Kool-Aid. EK doesnt know how to play defense lol...how do you think that plays out in the playoffs?

Of course it's a fluke. Look at his 5v5 numbers - he's never scored at anywhere near this rate ever. He's currently scoring at twice his career average. It not going to happen again.

He is pretty bad/mediocre at defense but has immense offensive upside. Score more goals than the other team!
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/113a3u7/202223_san_jose_sharks_midseason_skater/

His defensive stats are in the top 25 of all defenseman this season. But, he doesn't know how to play defense.

Sure.

LOL, fantasyland stuff. Even Grier doesn't think he's worth that much.

Grier, on if he’s asking for three first-round picks for Karlsson:

I’m not gonna really get into what we’re asking for. But I don’t think that’s totally accurate.

https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-mike-grier-karlsson-meier-trade/

hockey is changing and defense now is all about possession time and puck control in the o zone, especially on the Oilers and their system with Mcdavid. They need a puck moving d man that can control play in the o zone and that's what the game has become. You are making terrible unsupported opinions about his 5v5 play. If you actually looked at his stats you'd see that he ranks #1 in 5v5 defensemen stats.

yes almost 10 years ago hahahaha