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Forum: Armchair-GM17 févr. 2023 à 13 h 23
Sujet: Oilers Cup Favorites
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Of course, then we're in agreement. I don't think a single person thinks a deal could happen with out retention.

My point is that theres a sliding scale of the return depending on how much is retained. it's gotta be at least 2 mil for Edmonton to even figure out the money for it, and in that case the return wouldnt be that great since it's still a fairly high cap hit for them. On the other side, if SJ is retaining 4+ then they should be getting a HUGE return since Edmonton is now getting this incredible player at only 5.75-7.5 mil.

I think retention of 2.5-3.5 is the only realistic range where a deal could happen.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Of course, then we're in agreement. I don't think a single person thinks a deal could happen with out retention.

My point is that theres a sliding scale of the return depending on how much is retained. it's gotta be at least 2 mil for Edmonton to even figure out the money for it, and in that case the return wouldnt be that great since it's still a fairly high cap hit for them. On the other side, if SJ is retaining 4+ then they should be getting a HUGE return since Edmonton is now getting this incredible player at only 5.75-7.5 mil.

I think retention of 2.5-3.5 is the only realistic range where a deal could happen.</div></div>

yes I agree, but it just seems unrealistic to me because either needs a heavy retention or the oilers to pay a lot. I just don't see it happening
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. 2023 à 17 h 30
Sujet: Oilers Cup Favorites
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheRealKyleDavidson</b></div><div>You’re right because everyone defensemen is casually on pace to put up 110 points right? The stupidity in your comment is absurd.</div></div>

he's having an elite season, he's an unreliable player. just saying its not smart for the p=oilers to add the cap hit. if they can add EK at a lesser cap hit sure I love it. it scares me though with him being 32, hard to keep this pace up at older age for some people. if he's half of what he is this year the next three, make the trade. but San Jose will have to retain like 5.5 million to make a deal with the oilers. and obviously thats not what San Jose is going to do. I think he's an elite d man again, but let's look at it as unbiased fans. he's elite, but will not contribute at this pace again. if he does I will eat my shorts.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. 2023 à 13 h 26
Sujet: Oilers Cup Favorites
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sleeparc</b></div><div>Nothing about this year is a fluke. He has elite counting stats but also elite micro stats. He showed flashes of it last year too before injury. Most defenseman in this era after not point per game, in fact not even Josi, Makar or Fox are PPG. What Karlsson is doing this year is unprecedented since Paul Coffey was playing, it's incredible. Even his defensive stats are very high end this year, he's in the top twenty in defensive advanced stats this year. If he stays healthy going forward Karlsson at around 8-8.5 mil a year is an absolute bargain. No PP in the league could even touch Edmonton's.</div></div>

I agree with you. but he's 32. of you think he's gonna do this for another 4 years when he hasn't done anything even close to it yet in his 13 year career?
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. 2023 à 13 h 18
Sujet: Oilers Cup Favorites
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>There's 3.75 Mil retained here. You'd have Karl at a 7.75 which is absolutely insane value, even for his age. And you have to put his past point production in context. He was putting up near point per game seasons when the leagues top scorers had sub 100 points. He's not only on pace to break point per game, he's on pace to break 110 points.

And yes this is his first season of having consistent health in the past 5+ years, and he looks great. His last injury was a broken finger from a blocked shot, not a high ankle sprain or recurring shoulder issue so the injury issues are way overblown.</div></div>

yes almost 10 years ago when Jamie Benn won the Art Ross in 2015.... how are you comparing 10 years ago on a 32 year old hahaha. yes I compared the last 2-3 years. since he's been in his 30s. since he's been on the 11.5 mil contract. and yeah I agree getting him at 7.5 is unreal value, but we have a 9.25 Defenceman. I think people think his value is much higher than it actually is. im all for the oilers making a move. im sick of holland sitting around doing nothing and being a few pieces short of a potential Stanley cup appearance last year. but Idk about adding an expensive, injury prone, 32 year old Defenceman, who's having an almost fluke year, with 4 years left on his contract.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. 2023 à 12 h 35
Sujet: oilers rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DDossett</b></div><div>Krebs and savoie were both chosen with 1st's so 5 1st's. If it was kozak and asplund i would say 3 first a prospect and a player but guys picked in the top 10 are gonna count as 1st round picks for value unless you'd rather count them higher.
I would dare say Thompson is "untradeable" as well. What ever that means in a discussion of trading him.
At 7.1 mil a year i have a lot for flexibility and few less goals than i do with mcdavid as things stand.
I noticed McDavid doesnt have a cup ring, perhaps thats because the team is more important than one player. I also noticed that teams have won cups without Mcdavid so its possible. I'll keep my 6 great players you can keep your 1. Best of luck.</div></div>

im sure you have fun at parties!