SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Who wants Panarin

Créé par: HOCKEYBOY448
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 3 févr. 2023
Publié: 3 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Any takers on Trouba as well?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
86 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
22 750 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 750 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
NYR
ANA
  1. Panarin, Artemi
Détails additionnels:
Any takers? I legit don’t care about the return.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de NYR
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de COL
Logo de NYR
Logo de WPG
Logo de NYR
2024
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de MIN
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2783 500 000 $82 677 559 $610 892 $1 357 500 $822 441 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
AG
RFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD
UFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
787 500 $787 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
766 667 $766 667 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 2
#1
Future Ducks legend
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2022
Messages: 10,052
Mentions "j'aime": 6,826
Taking his entire contract? Woof, that's going to be a rough one.

Ducks would take Trouba for cheap, but both of their NMC basically guarantee we don't.
Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 2
#2
Othmann szn
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2023
Messages: 157
Mentions "j'aime": 49
Panarin is our best forward...
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 3
#3
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: Doctor0fMedicine
Panarin is our best forward...


And his contract and awful 5 on 5 play are why we’ll never win a cup.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 3
#4
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Taking his entire contract? Woof, that's going to be a rough one.

Ducks would take Trouba for cheap, but both of their NMC basically guarantee we don't.


Ignoring NMC, I’d willingly do that.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 5
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Yeah, no shot a real Rangers fan posted this
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 6
#6
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
Yeah, no shot a real Rangers fan posted this


I just don’t wanna see the 2010’s repeat themselves. Expensive contracts to aging vets is the easiest way to be mediocre. Rangers are literally repeating those mistakes.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 8
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
I just don’t wanna see the 2010’s repeat themselves. Expensive contracts to aging vets is the easiest way to be mediocre. Rangers are literally repeating those mistakes.


I'm sorry, but your forward core looks HORRENDOUS without Panarin, same thing to a lesser extent without Trouba
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 10
#8
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
I'm sorry, but your forward core looks HORRENDOUS without Panarin, same thing to a lesser extent without Trouba


Personally would take my chances moving him and another a quality middle six piece or two to provide more depth scoring.
Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 12
#9
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,625
Too bad Breadman has a NMC, So you're stuck with him like it or not.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 14
#10
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Too bad Breadman has a NMC, So you're stuck with him like it or not.


People can still be bought out. It may not save any money, but I hate when people act like there’s no way out of a contract.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 15
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Personally would take my chances moving him and another a quality middle six piece or two to provide more depth scoring.


Forget depth scoring, you need more top end scoring lol. Without Panarin your top line would be Kreider/Lafreniere - Zibanejad - Vesey lmao
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 18
#12
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
Forget depth scoring, you need more top end scoring lol. Without Panarin your top line would be Kreider/Lafreniere - Zibanejad - Vesey lmao


Did Trocheck disappear? Our best line even strength is the kids line. We need a premier shut down line and ideally 1-2 middle six wingers. I think Othmann can take one of those spots next year meaning we need to sign 1 more winger for the 3rd line.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 19
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2022
Messages: 8,617
Mentions "j'aime": 3,330
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
I just don’t wanna see the 2010’s repeat themselves. Expensive contracts to aging vets is the easiest way to be mediocre. Rangers are literally repeating those mistakes.


Already too late really, might as well stick with these guys for the next 4-6 years.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 19
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Did Trocheck disappear?


He's a centre?
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 20
#15
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: GMBL
Already too late really, might as well stick with these guys for the next 4-6 years.


Definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I think something should be done to avoid that. Doesn’t mean we need to agree on that though.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 21
#16
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
He's a centre?


He plays wing as well. And Chytil has played well enough to be 2C.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 22
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
He plays wing as well. And Chytil has played well enough to be 2C.


Vesey is currently playing over him. Whatever, if he plays wing then you're 2nd line is Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko/Vesey.

Woof.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 25
#18
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
Vesey is currently playing over him. Whatever, if he plays wing then you're 2nd line is Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko/Vesey.

Woof.


Shouldn’t be saying so much given you’re a Leafs fan. You’re team has one of the best offensive cores and hasn’t even won a round. The Rangers literally were just in the ECF’s. So much for your high end scoring. That didn’t work out so well in the playoffs. A team needs to be solid top to bottom to win.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 26
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Shouldn’t be saying so much given you’re a Leafs fan. You’re team has one of the best offensive cores and hasn’t even won a round. The Rangers literally were just in the ECF’s. So much for your high end scoring. That didn’t work out so well in the playoffs. A team needs to be solid top to bottom to win.


Ad hominem. Fantastic.

Believe me, we've seen how far well built teams with no star power make it (they don't)
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 29
#20
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
Ad hominem. Fantastic.

Believe me, we've seen how far well built teams with no star power make it (they don't)


You’re whole issue with this has been the Rangers fwd core. Which albeit takes a hit, but I think the improvement at 5 on 5 would more than be able to make up the difference. I think of it this way, with Panarin’s salary we could have Copp, Vatrano, Motte and still have some cap left over. Personally would take 3 good players over 1 great player. That depth would be far more important come playoff time.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 30
#21
neo87
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2022
Messages: 18
Mentions "j'aime": 0
What about the center depth?? you guys need a 4th line center.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 31
#22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,251
Mentions "j'aime": 465
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
You’re whole issue with this has been the Rangers fwd core. Which albeit takes a hit, but I think the improvement at 5 on 5 would more than be able to make up the difference. I think of it this way, with Panarin’s salary we could have Copp, Vatrano, Motte and still have some cap left over. Personally would take 3 good players over 1 great player. That depth would be far more important come playoff time.


My issue is that the Rangers forward core isn't impactful enough already. And you're taking even more away by subtracting Panarin
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 33
#23
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: LukaTAG
My issue is that the Rangers forward core isn't impactful enough already. And you're taking even more away by subtracting Panarin


On a nightly basis, Panarin’s biggest impact is on the power play. It’s not 5 on 5. If he’s not producing on the powerplay, his absence becomes far more notable.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 33
#24
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2022
Messages: 8,617
Mentions "j'aime": 3,330
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I think something should be done to avoid that. Doesn’t mean we need to agree on that though.


It's too late now though, they moved off of Strome but replaced him with Trocheck. Trocheck, Kreider, Zibanejad, and Fox aren't going anywhere anytime soon. If they buy out Panarin, it doesn't help them at all, and if they are trading him they probably need to retain a few million. They do need to replace him externally with a 7-9m guy, unless Lafreniere, Chytil, or Kakko start producing at a higher level.

Trouba is due for a new contract in 3-years but I doubt he is going anywhere either if it's the same management. He probably switches AAVs with and Shesterkin more or less. Their next opportunity to make significant changes to the roster would be by letting Trouba go in 3-years but let's see if they do.

They have Miller and Chytil who could get deals like you suggested but I feel like bridge deals will happen, and they will move Goodrow and/or Lindgren to make the money work if necessary. Who knows though if they don't win this year and Panarin isn't their best playoff performer, maybe Drury does try to shake things up, but moving him won't be so easy.
4 févr. 2023 à 0 h 33
#25
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,565
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: neo87
What about the center depth?? you guys need a 4th line center.


Bjugstad?
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage