Well yeah, but only to a certain extent. If you're a $9M guy, you HAVE to be a difference maker at least ONCE to make the playoffs. After 900 games, there are no more excuses. Look at Kaprizov, Price, Panarin, Josi, etc. All huge contributors put their team over the top.

No, because Marner, Matthews and Tavares are huuuge reasons why the Leafs make the playoffs every year. It's not the same thing all, man. What happens after is another debate.

And yes, it's on the actual topic. My point being Skinner doesn't have much value since he is paid to be a difference-maker and hasn't been one in almost 1000 games.

No, because Marner, Matthews and Tavares are huuuge reasons why the Leafs make the playoffs every year. It's not the same thing all, man. What happens after is another debate.

And yes, it's on the actual topic. My point being Skinner doesn't have much value since he is paid to be a difference-maker and hasn't been one in almost 1000 games.

Hogwash

There are only a handful of players to win a series with a $10M contract. Thats not the point. I know Price was the only one before last season and then others joined him (Bobrovsky, Panarin, McDavid). But the players I mentioned have at least made the playoffs once in... you know... in less than 900 career games.

When you look at the goalies who Skinner has played in front of, it makes a lot more sense. 8 years of a steadily declining Cam Ward, followed by a couple years of a Carter Hutton/Linus Ullmark tandem, and then the woodchipper that the Sabres net has been over the past couple years (6 goalies used in the bubble season, and 6 more used last year, somehow only 3 this year.) It's crazy to think that 41-year-old Craig Anderson might be the one who finally stabilizes that position behind him.

Ok,
Skinner isn’t enough of a difference maker to get us to the playoffs

AND

Matthews, Marner & Tavares aren’t good enough difference makers to get you past the first round


And NO, your point is NOT “on topic”
Bc the topic is:
Would the Sabres trade Skinner for Boeser?
And NOT
Is Skinner enough of a difference maker…. ?


So again, take your dumb argument to some Habs or VAN fans,
I’m sure they’ll appreciate your nonsense more

The topic is "Skinner value". Literally the name of the thread. The answer is not much. He's paid to be a difference-maker and cant be one if his life depended on it.

I would never say skinner is untouchable as a buffalo fan, definately not in the camp that skinner is a 9mil player. I feel we should trade him at any opportunity. His carear numbers are nice but results not so much. Funny how carolina trades him instead of paying him and thry suddenly end up a yearly cup contender.
Players change from season to season but skinner does thing that drive me nuts some times like losong posession on a poor shot choice, making an extra pass, skating around in circles instead of passing. Hes definately high end talent but im not sure hes what you want as your top line winger hes just seems to not get the whole game whole season we're here to win a cup drive and i'd rather my core piece were all on that level. Just mu opinion of his carear so far. I could be wrong and just be missing info about why things dont seem to work out for skinner, maybe im right but thus year it clicks and he's different. Who knows. I just know from the day his contract was announced i wanted it gone so i'll trade jeff skinner for a bag of pucks any chance i get so i can pick some one else to get that 9mil and those top line minutes. Nothing personal to skinner but i wish him the best on another team.
(Dont tell my son it was me skinners his favorite)

The Leafs have a butt load of offensive "difference makers" led by Matthews, Marner and Tavares making some $35M or so and can't get past the first round.

So...are they losers as well?

Great
We’ll still take Skinner over Boeser, thanks

It doesn't matter. $9M guy, no playoff games in a 900 gp career, there are just no excuses.

Eh, I'd still rather have the rest of his deal than the rest of Boeser's. Neither guy is going to put your team over the top (the only year Boeser's made any sort of noise in the playoffs was the 2019-20 season, when the Canucks were technically out of traditional playoff positioning when the season was stopped), and both of them are only mildly acquainted with the concept of defense, so I'll take the guy capable of scoring 40+ than the guy who tops out around 25 usually.

No, because Marner, Matthews and Tavares are huuuge reasons why the Leafs make the playoffs every year. It's not the same thing all, man. What happens after is another debate.

And yes, it's on the actual topic. My point being Skinner doesn't have much value since he is paid to be a difference-maker and hasn't been one in almost 1000 games.[/quote
Never past first round though. Maybe this will be their big year band lose in second round. Woo hoo for Leafs

So Marner,Matthews and Tavares semi-irrelevant cuz they’re sure not difference makers past first round and what they costing 35 plus million?

Making the playoffs is the first step buddy. What happens after is another dimension that you cant be a part of if your name is Skinner.

Yes. First step. Baby steps before rebuild pal but equally as pathetic as poor old Skinner. Leaf trolls have very little to be proud of since 1967
But we like Skinner and dont care if you don’t

Not much imo. The dude is a certified loser. How can you be a $9M player, almost 1000 career GP, and still ZERO playoff games.

He looks like a guy completely okay with losing and a team shouldn't want that.

Hogwash

Neither Skinner nor Buffalo fans seem to grasp the concept of playoffs. Reaching the playoffs is the first giant step and Skinner has proven to be unable to contribute to that despite being paid to do so. What happens after is another league where only 4 make it past the first round compared to 8 teams reaching the playoffs.

There's no way in hell that Skinner should shoulder the blame for not making the playoffs. If you'd been watching this team closely since they traded for him you would see what we're talking about.

Nea like Eichel, Reinhart Risto and Lehner are atop the list. Coaches like Housley and Krueger are right there along with two GM's I. Murray and Botterill who contributed to the clusterfuk that was the tank/rebuild.

Heh. He should not take the blame for a single season I agree, but after 900 games he must be held accountable,