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The Next Dominos to Fall

Créé par: KPasty
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2023
Publié: 31 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Levi, Devon [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Top 10 protected
BUF
  1. Demko, Thatcher
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
2.
3.
VAN
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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31 janv. 2023 à 11 h 59
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Canes don’t need to trade pacioretty

We likely target Boeser but in the offseason
31 janv. 2023 à 11 h 59
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Buffalo would be dumb to do that. Pacioretty makes no sense to be moved unless he is done playing in his career.
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Canes don’t need to trade pacioretty

We likely target Boeser but in the offseason


All it is to prevent Carolina from using more LTIR. He's UFA after this season and can re sign him if they want.
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 3
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All it is to prevent Carolina from using more LTIR. He's UFA after this season and can re sign him if they want.


Using more ltir really doesn’t matter to us. With Aho, Patches, etc making less real money than their cap hit, we likely save Patches tax money and not worry about trading him. I agree we likely re-sign him in the offseason if he passes a physical
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 5
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Buffalo would be dumb to do that. Pacioretty makes no sense to be moved unless he is done playing in his career.


Why would it be dumb? They're starting to contend now, Levi is probably 2-3 years away. You have a goalie who is in his prime and can get you in to the playoffs and gain experience while most players on their cheap deals and not making $7M+ like Cozens, Quinn, Power will surely be making in just a couple seasons. Sure its a risk with his injuries, but a dumb move, it is not.
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Using more ltir really doesn’t matter to us. With Aho, Patches, etc making less real money than their cap hit, we likely save Patches tax money and not worry about trading him. I agree we likely re-sign him in the offseason if he passes a physical


alright, then removing Patches and putting him on LTIR. I still think Boeser and Burroughs, a scoring winger and depth D man for a playoff push for a 2nd is good value.
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 8
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Why would it be dumb? They're starting to contend now, Levi is probably 2-3 years away. You have a goalie who is in his prime and can get you in to the playoffs and gain experience while most players on their cheap deals and not making $7M+ like Cozens, Quinn, Power will surely be making in just a couple seasons. Sure its a risk with his injuries, but a dumb move, it is not.


Roughly because they aren’t lacking a starter as UPL is playing very serviceable. *Note this isn’t saying UPL is better than Demko, just an unnecessary move for a slight upgrade. Or in other words, a dumb price to pay for that mild upgrade, if that.
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31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 12
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Quoting: KPasty
Why would it be dumb? They're starting to contend now, Levi is probably 2-3 years away. You have a goalie who is in his prime and can get you in to the playoffs and gain experience while most players on their cheap deals and not making $7M+ like Cozens, Quinn, Power will surely be making in just a couple seasons. Sure its a risk with his injuries, but a dumb move, it is not.


Demko has been horrific this season lol what
31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 15
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, from Buffalo

1- we are no longer looking for a goalie
UPL is playing well for us (12-3 after a shaky start) & has basically become our #1. Plus Anderson has played well for us all year, & we have Comrie signed for next year, with Levi coming.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A GOALIE

2- 🤣🤣🤣 if u think Demko is getting u that return right now
He’s played poorly this year & having injury issues. If u wanna get his “previous value” for him in a trade, then you’re likely gonna have to wait it out for him to get healthy again & start playing like his previous self.
*Even if the Sabres were still looking for a goalie, i wouldn’t give you a 1st- OR- Levi for Demko- let alone both!
That’s just ridiculous dude
YOU ARE NOT GETTING THAT VALUE FOR DEMKO TILL HE STARTS PLAYING BETTER


There’s just Zero Chance that this deal happens
ABSOLUTELY NONE
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31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 47
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Quoting: KPasty
Why would it be dumb? They're starting to contend now, Levi is probably 2-3 years away. You have a goalie who is in his prime and can get you in to the playoffs and gain experience while most players on their cheap deals and not making $7M+ like Cozens, Quinn, Power will surely be making in just a couple seasons. Sure its a risk with his injuries, but a dumb move, it is not.


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Why would it be dumb? They're starting to contend now, Levi is probably 2-3 years away. You have a goalie who is in his prime and can get you in to the playoffs and gain experience while most players on their cheap deals and not making $7M+ like Cozens, Quinn, Power will surely be making in just a couple seasons. Sure its a risk with his injuries, but a dumb move, it is not.


If they were a goalie away from a cup, maybe they'd make a move *like* this. But adding a struggling goalie to a team that is still learning how to defend well isn't the right move for them. It's just an impossibly risky one at that price, when A. UPL is starting to pan out B. 1st round pick winds up 11 in a fantastic draft C. If Levi becomes Demko in 2 years for Vancouver will have to go into hiding

P.s. Even when I was open to Demko earlier - when our goaltending was atrocious - I wouldn't consider moving Levi in the deal
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31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 54
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If they were a goalie away from a cup, maybe they'd make a move *like* this. But adding a struggling goalie to a team that is still learning how to defend well isn't the right move for them. It's just an impossibly risky one at that price, when A. UPL is starting to pan out B. 1st round pick winds up 11 in a fantastic draft C. If Levi becomes Demko in 2 years for Vancouver will have to go into hiding

P.s. Even when I was open to Demko earlier - when our goaltending was atrocious - I wouldn't consider moving Levi in the deal


Dumb. Sabres wouldn’t even move a 1st for Demko. Adams loves the direction they are going and staying the course. He has Meier on his mind as the move he is making.
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31 janv. 2023 à 12 h 57
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If they were a goalie away from a cup, maybe they'd make a move *like* this. But adding a struggling goalie to a team that is still learning how to defend well isn't the right move for them. It's just an impossibly risky one at that price, when A. UPL is starting to pan out B. 1st round pick winds up 11 in a fantastic draft C. If Levi becomes Demko in 2 years for Vancouver will have to go into hiding

P.s. Even when I was open to Demko earlier - when our goaltending was atrocious - I wouldn't consider moving Levi in the deal


Sorry meant to quote KPasty post!
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31 janv. 2023 à 13 h 3
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Buffalo doesn't want Demko. He's also not elite, he's not getting that return
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31 janv. 2023 à 13 h 12
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Roughly because they aren’t lacking a starter as UPL is playing very serviceable. *Note this isn’t saying UPL is better than Demko, just an unnecessary move for a slight upgrade. Or in other words, a dumb price to pay for that mild upgrade, if that.


UPL is better than Demko right now, and UPL is also improving every game
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31 janv. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Dumb. Sabres wouldn’t even move a 1st for Demko. Adams loves the direction they are going and staying the course. He has Meier on his mind as the move he is making.


Saw your 2nd quote 👍
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31 janv. 2023 à 13 h 24
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Sorry meant to quote KPasty post!


Didn't see this, I'm sorry for responding in kind 😅
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31 janv. 2023 à 13 h 46
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UPL is better than Demko right now, and UPL is also improving every game


It’s debatable, but sure looks like it this season. I just wanted to avoid The Who’s better talk, and focus on the trade being off for a variety of factors
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31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 19
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No thanks, would rather them try and use the cap space on a true difference maker and not a guy with less goals than Brady Skjei
 
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