My Meier package take it or leave it

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Créé par: Skyraider112

Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo

Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023

Publié: 25 janv. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Would Meier make us better both now and in the future? Undeniably so. However, his large QO is a cause for caution. Personally I would not pull the trigger on a trade unless terms were agreed to with Meier beforehand as to an extension in the 6-7 years and 8-8.5 mil range. Sure the Sabres have the cap space now to hand out more money and term too. However, we need to be wise and continue to be prudent with cap management as we do not want to lose any of our young players due to being too generous with salaries. Forward is not our position of need, however Meier is a legit top line forward that would give us even greater scoring depth and add some much needed edge and physicality.

Here is my offer for Timo, you are all more than welcome to provide input. Any greater price on either the trade value or contract dollars and I would have to say "not worth it" for the future of the Sabres.

Transactions

BUF

Meier, Timo

SJS

Mittelstadt, Casey
Östlund, Noah
Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)

Détails additionnels:

2023 1st is top 5 protected. 2nd round pick is the best of the 3 (which looks to be Philly's).

Grade A prospect in Ostlund
Mitts is a middle six forward, can play center but is better at wing imo. He's signed cheap and will still be RFA.
Portillo could be a good addition to the SJS pipeline, I could swap for Johnson instead but then I'd downgrade the 2nd to be Vegas' pick (as Johnson returns a 2nd round pick if he doesn't sign)

BUF

Murphy, Connor

CHI

Hinostroza, Vinnie (800 000 $ retained)
Poltapov, Prokhor [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Vinnie retained so that Chicago could retain further and flip him to get max value. Poltapov is a B prospect, playing against men in the KHL.

If this isn't enough for Chicago, then I'd simply roll with the D we have or try and get a cheaper option

Rachats de contrats

Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Vinnie Hinostroza: 800 000 $ (47.06%)

Enfoui

Anders Bjork: 475 000 $ (1 600 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	65 801 667 $	0 $	3 620 000 $	16 698 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 5	Thompson, Tage 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C UFA - 1	Tuch, Alex 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Cozens, Dylan 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AG UFA - 1	Quinn, Jack 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3
Peterka, John-Jason 855 833 $855 833 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 3	Jost, Tyson 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Olofsson, Victor 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Girgensons, Zemgus 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton 863 333 $863 333 $ (412 500 $$412K) C, AG RFA - 2
		Okposo, Kyle 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Samuelsson, Mattias 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Dahlin, Rasmus 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka 837 500 $837 500 $ G RFA - 2
Power, Owen 916 667 $916 667 $ (925 000 $$925K) DG/DD UFA - 2	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Anderson, Craig 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) G UFA - 1
Jokiharju, Henri 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Lyubushkin, Ilya 687 500 $687 500 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Bryson, Jacob 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Bishop, Ben 4 916 667 $4 916 667 $ G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Asplund, Rasmus 825 000 $825 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1
Comrie, Eric 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 2

25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 0

SlickWilly

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Yeah, I think Connor Murphy is just worth more to us than he will be to another team, and retaining for 3 years isnt realistic, so we will probably just end up keeping him and are better off trading McCabe

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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 3

Skyraider112

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Quoting: SlickWilly

There is no retention on Murphy... I retained on Hinostroza so that Chicago can flip him for more value

25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 4

NHLfan10506

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I think it would be a solid offer. But Ostlund may not be as enticing as he had been at start of season. And Portillo is a candidate to become NCAA free agent.

Maybe add Savoie in place of those two?

25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 6

SlickWilly

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Quoting: Skyraider112

There is no retention on Murphy... I retained on Hinostroza so that Chicago can flip him for more value

No I know, Im saying he won't get a return we would be happy with unless we retain on him, which probably won't happen

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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 28

NotDougWilson

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The 1st and 2nd round picks are what's important in this trade for Meier. Ostlund is going to be a decent top 6 player in the near future. He already has a relationship with Eklund as well. Portillo is kind of a funny case since we already have another Michigan goaltender with Strauss Mann. I guess the more the merrier

If I'm the sharks, I would accept.

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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 54

Hawksguy81

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I think if the pick in the Murphy trade was the Buffalo '23 instead of the '24, the Hawks would consider this. Really depends on what Davidson thinks of Poltapov as a prospect.

And that's a really strong offer for Meier. Sharks would have to take that I'd think

25 janv. 2023 à 15 h 54

Skyraider112

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Quoting: SlickWilly

No I know, Im saying he won't get a return we would be happy with unless we retain on him, which probably won't happen

I understand now, thanks for clarifying. Not sure McCabe would want to return to Buffalo. I'm unsure about how the relationship between him and the organization ended when he left. We also need a RHD with term, which Murphy fits into. But I understand your points.

Quoting: NotDougWilson

If I'm the sharks, I would accept.

Thanks for the input man. The trade doesn't cost anything that hurts too much for the Sabres and their build, but the Sharks get some real quality pieces to help them along their path of rebuilding. Its a win-win as I see it.

Quoting: Hawksguy81

Yes I think the trade value depends on how Poltapov is seen. When he was drafted there was hopes of a middle-6 goal scorer who plays with grit. Hard to gauge his development as a causal observer of his stats in the KHL. However, I would be willing to part with any similar wing prospect (Cederqvist, Kisakov etc.).

Thanks for your input!

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