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Fantilli

Créé par: Heinzey
Équipe: 2023-24 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 5 janv. 2023
Publié: 5 janv. 2023
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Fantilli could have a similar start as McT where they start him out on the wing, but I have him C here. I'm sure he moves up out of the 3rd line fairly quickly, just here to start.
Had a hard time deciding between Jones, Pastujov, and Regenda for the last 4th line winger, so I went with Perry instead. Let me dream. I think Pastujov spends another year in the O but is the best of the three in the future.
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If we can get a 1st for Klingberg at the deadline use that later 2023 1st instead of next years 2024. Not sure if our 2nd would have to be our own, might be able to get away with the later 2nds.

Zellweger/Mintyukov/Helleson are likely not ready to be top 4 yet but will be forced into that role. Chychrun will help ease into it.
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5 janv. 2023 à 17 h 59
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I’d rather just try and sign someone like Ryan Graves in FA
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 10
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I'm incredibly hesitant to move out any winger prospects for Chychrun. Either look to centers or some of our defensive prospects. I don't dislike the idea of acquiring him, but lets let the market sour on him a bit, wait until the offseason. One of the biggest attributes about him is his contract, so lets let Arizona bee too greedy and buy when its cheaper to acquire.

We also need to consider the year after when Silf and Henrique are gone, we need at least one top 6 LW, probably two. I like the idea of getting Kuzemenko.

I think Lundestrom is wasted on the 4th line, he needs to be up on 3 at a minimum, or look at using his as trade bait for a team deep on wingers but light at center, or for a RHD. Maybe there's a deal to work out with New Jersey who are heavy at D prospects.

We will grab best available, but if we take Fantilli, might be best to leave him at Michigan for a year post draft instead of rushing him into the lineup, gives us time to move out Henrique and Silfverberg and make room for him. I'd also be interested in taking Carlsson or Michkov. Yeah, I've heard the thing about his contract, but money talks in those sorts of situations.

Way too many rookies on the D core as well. Helleson might be ready for the call up, but I would like to see Zellweger play in the AHL before coming to the show. Maybe Minty will be ready as he was a 10OA if he has the right partner. Keep Vaakainen around as a bottom pairing 7th man, maybe play him offside as 3RD, and go get a guy like Mayfield to play with Fowler.
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 16
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Fantilli looks like a kid that should go back to Michigan in his D+1 year.
5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 28
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To begin with, the only reason why I would pursue Chychrun is if either Mintyukov or Zellweger or both aren't deemed ready for prime time. Otherwise, I'd much rather leave Cam on his natural side and sign a minute-munching veteran like Justin Holl or Scott Mayfield or even Nick Jensen for the right side.

I'm not a fan of moving Zegras away from Terry or out to the wing.
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 35
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Ducks should avoid Fantilli.
If we don’t get Bedard, Ducks should be all in on Leo Carlsson.
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 37
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Pretty risky for the Ducks to move their 2024 first for Chyrun. Don’t see them improving too much so moving a potential lottery pick this far in advance isn’t advisable
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I'm incredibly hesitant to move out any winger prospects for Chychrun. Either look to centers or some of our defensive prospects. I don't dislike the idea of acquiring him, but lets let the market sour on him a bit, wait until the offseason. One of the biggest attributes about him is his contract, so lets let Arizona bee too greedy and buy when its cheaper to acquire.

We also need to consider the year after when Silf and Henrique are gone, we need at least one top 6 LW, probably two. I like the idea of getting Kuzemenko.

I think Lundestrom is wasted on the 4th line, he needs to be up on 3 at a minimum, or look at using his as trade bait for a team deep on wingers but light at center, or for a RHD. Maybe there's a deal to work out with New Jersey who are heavy at D prospects.

We will grab best available, but if we take Fantilli, might be best to leave him at Michigan for a year post draft instead of rushing him into the lineup, gives us time to move out Henrique and Silfverberg and make room for him. I'd also be interested in taking Carlsson or Michkov. Yeah, I've heard the thing about his contract, but money talks in those sorts of situations.

Way too many rookies on the D core as well. Helleson might be ready for the call up, but I would like to see Zellweger play in the AHL before coming to the show. Maybe Minty will be ready as he was a 10OA if he has the right partner. Keep Vaakainen around as a bottom pairing 7th man, maybe play him offside as 3RD, and go get a guy like Mayfield to play with Fowler.


Your not getting Kuzmenko. end or story, Sharks need him more LOL.
And if you guys want to pass on Fantilli I'm sure the Sharks would jump at trading a wing like Weisblatt, Robins Or Gushin plus their 1st (right now sits at 4th OA) to move up 2 spots for Fantilli.
I agree with you on keeping the D a little longer in the Minors especially Mintyukov, he is blowing it up but is still very raw in the D zone. a year in the AHL would be good for him to continue to work on his defense. and im stil pissed you guys grabed him I wanted him SOOOOOO bad for the Sharks.
next year wold be wise to pick up 2 solid d minded D guys on 1-2 year deals and use them to bridge the gap till you prospects are more NHL ready.

feel like in 3-4 years the Pacific wil be back to ANA LAK and SJS fighting for the top 3 spots again.
5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: CHAR
Fantilli looks like a kid that should go back to Michigan in his D+1 year.


In all the sharks projections I've done where we get Fantilli I have him going back to college in 23/24 and starting the 24 season fighting for the 3C spot in the NHL as well.
then let him mature into the top 6 role.
5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 42
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Quoting: JohnJohnson
Pretty risky for the Ducks to move their 2024 first for Chyrun. Don’t see them improving too much so moving a potential lottery pick this far in advance isn’t advisable


Plus Mintyukov looks like he has all the tools to be a better version of Chychrun and you guys have the cap room to not overpay for Chychrun for his good deal.
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 43
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Ducks should avoid Fantilli.
If we don’t get Bedard, Ducks should be all in on Leo Carlsson.


Please do!!!! the sharks need a guy like Fantilli or Carlsson combination of size and skill. sharks best prospects are all undersized right now.
5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I'm incredibly hesitant to move out any winger prospects for Chychrun. Either look to centers or some of our defensive prospects. I don't dislike the idea of acquiring him, but lets let the market sour on him a bit, wait until the offseason. One of the biggest attributes about him is his contract, so lets let Arizona bee too greedy and buy when its cheaper to acquire.

We also need to consider the year after when Silf and Henrique are gone, we need at least one top 6 LW, probably two. I like the idea of getting Kuzemenko.

I think Lundestrom is wasted on the 4th line, he needs to be up on 3 at a minimum, or look at using his as trade bait for a team deep on wingers but light at center, or for a RHD. Maybe there's a deal to work out with New Jersey who are heavy at D prospects.

We will grab best available, but if we take Fantilli, might be best to leave him at Michigan for a year post draft instead of rushing him into the lineup, gives us time to move out Henrique and Silfverberg and make room for him. I'd also be interested in taking Carlsson or Michkov. Yeah, I've heard the thing about his contract, but money talks in those sorts of situations.

Way too many rookies on the D core as well. Helleson might be ready for the call up, but I would like to see Zellweger play in the AHL before coming to the show. Maybe Minty will be ready as he was a 10OA if he has the right partner. Keep Vaakainen around as a bottom pairing 7th man, maybe play him offside as 3RD, and go get a guy like Mayfield to play with Fowler.


I Understand the hesitation to move a winger, very justified and good point about the year after without Henrique and Silfverberg.
Carlsson and Michkov are great options as well, I just was exploring what they would do with Fantilli here (Obviously Bedard if we get #1, just lowering my expectations).
I think all 3 of those D-men are ready for the league now, as long as they aren't thrown into the deep end.
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5 janv. 2023 à 18 h 56
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Plus Mintyukov looks like he has all the tools to be a better version of Chychrun and you guys have the cap room to not overpay for Chychrun for his good deal.


Good point, I guess just need a bridge guy to ease them into the playing time
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5 janv. 2023 à 19 h 14
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Good point, I guess just need a bridge guy to ease them into the playing time


thats where I would look, save your picks and prospects, find 2 solid guys in FA or even better, find a team who needs to move an expensive D thats still good with 1-3 years left and make them pay to trade him to you!
win win.
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5 janv. 2023 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
thats where I would look, save your picks and prospects, find 2 solid guys in FA or even better, find a team who needs to move an expensive D thats still good with 1-3 years left and make them pay to trade him to you!
win win.


How bad do you want out from under Mr. Pickles contract?

Kidding, mostly. Possible contracts would be Trouba, Ekholm, Oleksiak, McDonagh, Schmidt, McNabb, Pettersson, maybe even Brent Burns.

There is of course the obvious Meyers and Zaitsev but they are one year guys.

Some others I would prefer more, but those teams probably don't need to move those guys.
5 janv. 2023 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
How bad do you want out from under Mr. Pickles contract?


lol we don't. I mean we do! but he has a NMC/ NTC and he doesn't want to waive it plus were trying to tank as badly as you guys are and he has been decent this year.
ad the picks and assets needed to move him would only prolong our rebuild so he stays for this year and next then either bought out, retires, or mysteriously comes down with "career ending Injury" and is placed on LTIR.
5 janv. 2023 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
lol we don't. I mean we do! but he has a NMC/ NTC and he doesn't want to waive it plus were trying to tank as badly as you guys are and he has been decent this year.
ad the picks and assets needed to move him would only prolong our rebuild so he stays for this year and next then either bought out, retires, or mysteriously comes down with "career ending Injury" and is placed on LTIR.


What are you guys even going to do with Kuzemenko? Is that not going to derail the rebuild? Is he supposed to be your budget Timo replacement? (Probably not much cheaper AAV to be honest)

As to trading down from 2nd to 4th, if we are confident the guy we want will be there at 4 ( I think we should take Carlsson, but Mitchkov could be just fine as well) I could see us trading down, assuming of course we miss on Bedard and the price is right.
5 janv. 2023 à 19 h 53
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What are you guys even going to do with Kuzemenko? Is that not going to derail the rebuild? Is he supposed to be your budget Timo replacement? (Probably not much cheaper AAV to be honest)

As to trading down from 2nd to 4th, if we are confident the guy we want will be there at 4 ( I think we should take Carlsson, but Mitchkov could be just fine as well) I could see us trading down, assuming of course we miss on Bedard and the price is right.


Chicago is getting Bedard they are the worst team in the leauge and they have a TON of 1sts when you add up this year and the next 2 plus the picks they are getting for towes and kane potentially.
and the big market is exactly where the Commissioner wants a guy like that. especially since no Canadien team is close to the bottom 5
5 janv. 2023 à 20 h 17
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Quoting: CHAR
Fantilli looks like a kid that should go back to Michigan in his D+1 year.


have you watched him at michigan or just in the WJC? because if you watch him at michigan you prob would not think this lol. not to say he can't benefit from it (i would LOVE if he came back for another year) but he is dominant at the college level
5 janv. 2023 à 20 h 29
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have you watched him at michigan or just in the WJC? because if you watch him at michigan you prob would not think this lol. not to say he can't benefit from it (i would LOVE if he came back for another year) but he is dominant at the college level


Since he's college he can just turn pro and go to the AHL right?
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Since he's college he can just turn pro and go to the AHL right?


yeah he can go straight to the AHL if he wants
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5 janv. 2023 à 21 h 15
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Since he's college he can just turn pro and go to the AHL right?


Quoting: bagelbob
yeah he can go straight to the AHL if he wants


But why would you burn a year off his ELC doing that? Michigan is a great place for him to develop another year, go back for a 2nd WJC where he'll play a bigger role and so on.
5 janv. 2023 à 22 h 18
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Quoting: CHAR
But why would you burn a year off his ELC doing that? Michigan is a great place for him to develop another year, go back for a 2nd WJC where he'll play a bigger role and so on.


Because he's too good for the NCAA, or so says the guy who watches the games further up thread.

If he is playing in the AHL is that not going to be a slide year which we can do twice, stretching his ELC to 5 years total?
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby


If he is playing in the AHL is that not going to be a slide year which we can do twice, stretching his ELC to 5 years total?


Doh, you're right it would slide wouldn't it. My bad.
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