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The best they can hope for

Créé par: MountRoyal
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 30 déc. 2022
Publié: 2 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
There is really no market for many of these guys, so the Habs should be happy to get anything in return at all. Other teams take a cheap flier for the playoffs, mostly as injury depth with the very outside chance that a change of scenery helps these players.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
In hopes that a chance to play on Ovechkin's team can inspire a bit of a rebound out of Dadanov
WSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
2.
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
He gets out of the high pressure environment of Montreal, though if he has any success, it will more likely be that the talent around him pulls him along with them. He's got just enough intriguing raw talent to make the experiment worth it.
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Conditions on pick could make it a 2nd with certain number of playoff games played.
MIN
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 150 000 $ retained)
4.
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
5.
MTL
  1. Pánik, Richard
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
6.
MTL
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $75 447 499 $1 132 500 $5 277 500 $7 052 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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2 janv. 2023 à 8 h 41
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Even half retained, I don’t see Dadonov or Drouin getting positive value returns. Use those retention spots on Monahan/Edmundson/double retaining for another team.
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2 janv. 2023 à 8 h 41
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You obviously don't follow a lot of hockey, as many as 7 teams have called the Habs this season about Edmundson. His value around the league and many ofthe others you have listed is higher than you think.
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2 janv. 2023 à 8 h 48
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Retention isn't an option unless the return warrants using it. It's a waste of a spot and a 7th round pick isn't worth spending the amount of actual cash to acquire.
It's better to use the slot if possible of course, but you're just throwing money away at that point. A good GM isn't wasting their owner's money like that.
Dadonov and Drouin will in all likelihood simply walk to free agency and that's okay. We aren't losing value because it just isn't there.
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2 janv. 2023 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: Campabee
You obviously don't follow a lot of hockey, as many as 7 teams have called the Habs this season about Edmundson. His value around the league and many ofthe others you have listed is higher than you think.


I would be happy to be wrong, but was feeling pessimistic this morning Sticking Out Tongue
2 janv. 2023 à 8 h 53
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Quoting: ricochetii
Retention isn't an option unless the return warrants using it. It's a waste of a spot and a 7th round pick isn't worth spending the amount of actual cash to acquire.
It's better to use the slot if possible of course, but you're just throwing money away at that point. A good GM isn't wasting their owner's money like that.
Dadonov and Drouin will in all likelihood simply walk to free agency and that's okay. We aren't losing value because it just isn't there.


Its true, I think the biggest value they can provide right now is walking away in the summer and leaving us all that cap room.
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2 janv. 2023 à 10 h 2
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Its true, I think the biggest value they can provide right now is walking away in the summer and leaving us all that cap room.


Dadonov has slight value since he still plays ok defensively so he isn't a one dimensional player but Drouin I can see them walking away from in the summer as the only option for sure. There are also reporters questioning a Gallagher buyout since it will cost less than 1 mil for the next 2 years and then 2 mil after that
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2 janv. 2023 à 10 h 18
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Edmundson is worth far more.
2 year term low cost at 3.5M Top4 D, Big, leadership, experience, dirty. Like it or not, his value is HUGE because he's such a luxury item. Would every team 'overpay' for him, the answer is no!
But not everyone will spend 100k on a Gretzky rookie card either. There are multiple teams willing to give up serious assets for Edmundson as has been reported by Rishaug, Lebrun, etc.

It's almost delusion to dismiss his value and quote metrics as the sole reason. Nuance needs to be considered here. He's an asset that is scarce so the value increases just like a Gretzky rookie card.
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2 janv. 2023 à 10 h 23
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Dadonov has slight value since he still plays ok defensively so he isn't a one dimensional player but Drouin I can see them walking away from in the summer as the only option for sure. There are also reporters questioning a Gallagher buyout since it will cost less than 1 mil for the next 2 years and then 2 mil after that


The most impressive thing about Hughes work last year was how he was able to stagger his trade deals. Toffoli was weeks early. Chiarot was done 5 days early then he continued throughout the TDL day. I dont think he can focus much on assets like Dadonov and Drouin NOT that I think they have much value to begin. Edmundsson and Mohanan are by far the two biggest pieces and it will be tough to trade BOTH at market value if not staggered. You have to play so many cards at the same time. Being an agent really proved to be an asset for Hughes last season.
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2 janv. 2023 à 11 h 2
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Montreal fans again Sean Monahan will never play in Minnesota wiry Guerin as gm. For some reason you guys don't listen
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The Caps already have too many wingers as it is, and with guys playing well like Aube-Kubel and Protas on the outside looking in when everyone is healthy (Which is likely to be soon with Oshie, Backstrom, and Wilson all in regular practice jerseys), there is going to be no room for Dadanov in the starting lineup as he won't push out Johansson or Milano the way they are playing right now.

Also seems like too much for Drouin, I have a hard time seeing any team paying assets for him. Additionally, while I think the Isles would be fine with getting Pulju, I get the feeling that Lou is unwilling to make a move like that (or a move at all).
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Montreal fans again Sean Monahan will never play in Minnesota wiry Guerin as gm. For some reason you guys don't listen


Would you say there is... wildnochance? wink
4 janv. 2023 à 19 h 42
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Montreal fans again Sean Monahan will never play in Minnesota wiry Guerin as gm. For some reason you guys don't listen


Just curious, why would you say that? is there a history between the two of them? Maybe they hate each other, I honestly haven't followed Monahan's career closely as he only recently joined the Habs and he's played alright but is really just passing through town here ...
4 janv. 2023 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: MountRoyal
Just curious, why would you say that? is there a history between the two of them? Maybe they hate each other, I honestly haven't followed Monahan's career closely as he only recently joined the Habs and he's played alright but is really just passing through town here ...


Because it's been reported over and over for years since Guerin took over wild by our beat writer including this summer. Literally Guerin wouldn't take Sean Monahan this past summer when Calgary was offering a 1st. There's either beef or bad blood, or something about Monahan we all don't know. So it's not happening
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