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How do we fix the blues

Créé par: xercuses
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 11 déc. 2022
Publié: 11 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Total Tear down retool
Transactions
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STL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
TOR
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
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STL
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. McMichael, Connor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
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STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
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STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
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STL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. Greiss, Thomas
  3. Mikkola, Niko
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
Each is worth like a 3rd ish
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NSH
    Waivers
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    NYR
    1. Todd, Nathan
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
    Détails additionnels:
    I don’t think they will be able to resign him
    I think giving them the first offer my move the needle a bit
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        Next Year Neighbours gets a full time role Bolduc and snuggerud take as much time as they need in the ahl to develop well
        Call me up and probably move in from a guy like saad
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        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 11
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        My main thought here is you don;t even address the largest problem. I'm getting close to being down for a buyouts of Leddy and Krug.
        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 15
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        Personally, I don’t mind if the blues stay broken and bad. Easier path to the playoffs for Nashville.

        I think the Blues just need to find a low quality starter/high quality backup goalie. Someone that can start more games, so Binnington doesn’t play as much. You also need the same career years you had from Tarasenko, Kyrou, and Thomas. All of them still have good production, but it’s still down from last year. The D is an issue too. Also, please don’t take Tolvy

        I know Greiss was supposed to be that high quality backup goalie, but he’s just been bad at that role. You need to find someone else to do it
        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 30
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        Capitals don’t even consider that trade for a second. It’s extremely one sided and doesn’t address any of our issues.
        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 46
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        The Blues hard committed to a new leadership group. Gotta get ride of the old guard. Dumping 90 & 91 is the right call
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        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 54
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        My main thought here is you don;t even address the largest problem. I'm getting close to being down for a buyouts of Leddy and Krug.


        I was thinking of that but i just cant see a buyout right now for those two, But also i cand see a trade either atm. Maybe krug and we get a good defensive specialist plus a pick. Maybe too FLA?
        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 55
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        Quoting: OkMan
        Personally, I don’t mind if the blues stay broken and bad. Easier path to the playoffs for Nashville.

        I think the Blues just need to find a low quality starter/high quality backup goalie. Someone that can start more games, so Binnington doesn’t play as much. You also need the same career years you had from Tarasenko, Kyrou, and Thomas. All of them still have good production, but it’s still down from last year. The D is an issue too. Also, please don’t take Tolvy

        I know Greiss was supposed to be that high quality backup goalie, but he’s just been bad at that role. You need to find someone else to do it


        Greiss has actually been pretty good and i wouldnt mind if he starts more games
        11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 56
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        Capitals don’t even consider that trade for a second. It’s extremely one sided and doesn’t address any of our issues.


        Ok maybe it doesnt adress there needs but its not lopsided lol, Thats just wrong. Its fair value
        11 déc. 2022 à 19 h 7
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        Greiss has actually been pretty good and i wouldnt mind if he starts more games


        Maybe it's just been when I've watch games, but against Nashville and Philadelphia I thought he was just bad. I guess I don't bring him good luck
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        11 déc. 2022 à 19 h 17
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        Eller could bring back a 3rd but Greiss and Mikkola aren't worth that.
        11 déc. 2022 à 19 h 25
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        Quoting: bhavikp27
        Eller could bring back a 3rd but Greiss and Mikkola aren't worth that.


        Yea I don’t know there values fs just more chose a place holder team and 3 3rds lol
        Just so I could put the line up down
        11 déc. 2022 à 20 h 28
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        think that's fair and as most Blues and Leafs fans probably know by now, I'm a huge advocate for ROR to TOR.
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        11 déc. 2022 à 20 h 32
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        Quoting: xercuses
        Greiss has actually been pretty good and i wouldnt mind if he starts more games


        No he has not. I have no idea how you get that. He's let in several softies and is a nightmare playing the puck. He does one thing well: positioning. So lots of things hit him. If he has to move, forget it. Sieve.
        11 déc. 2022 à 20 h 41
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        Avs have been there done that with Kerfoot. No need for them to revisit.
        11 déc. 2022 à 21 h 20
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        Ok maybe it doesnt adress there needs but its not lopsided lol, Thats just wrong. Its fair value


        Yeah… giving up basically 2 1st round picks + 1/2 season of VT lol extremely fair
        12 déc. 2022 à 1 h 6
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        No he has not. I have no idea how you get that. He's let in several softies and is a nightmare playing the puck. He does one thing well: positioning. So lots of things hit him. If he has to move, forget it. Sieve.


        your clearly not watching the games i am. Are you watching him in Detroit perhaps?
        Sure he hasnt been amazing but hes been pretty good and for the most part aside from a game or two given the blues a good chance to win every game hes played.
        Also so what if hes not amazing at puck handling, not every goalie is amazing at everything. The team knows this and should adjust to compensate, then it wont be a problem.
        12 déc. 2022 à 1 h 19
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        Yeah… giving up basically 2 1st round picks + 1/2 season of VT lol extremely fair


        Yeah its a ****in rental
        12 déc. 2022 à 1 h 44
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        your clearly not watching the games i am. Are you watching him in Detroit perhaps?
        Sure he hasnt been amazing but hes been pretty good and for the most part aside from a game or two given the blues a good chance to win every game hes played.
        Also so what if hes not amazing at puck handling, not every goalie is amazing at everything. The team knows this and should adjust to compensate, then it wont be a problem.


        I've watched every minute of all his games. He's not good.
        12 déc. 2022 à 2 h 10
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        I've watched every minute of all his games. He's not good.


        You are objectively wrong here
        12 déc. 2022 à 2 h 27
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        You are objectively wrong here


        Funny stuff. Setting aside that you need a vocabulary review, the guy has two quality starts and a good half dozen howlers in seven starts (4.12 GAA, .890 sv pct). The guy hasn't been decent in two years and hasn't been genuinely good for like five years. Plus, you are the first human I've seen so much as suggest Greiss has been good for us this season. Nobody else thinks this.
        12 déc. 2022 à 17 h 27
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        Yeah its a ****in rental


        Exactly. Capitals have 50/50 shot at playoffs. We aren’t giving up 2 major assets for pure offensive winger who literally address nothing for us. You might get a 1st + average prospect for him but nothing close to this. Massive overpayment
         
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