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Josh Anderson for the 2024 28th to 32nd overall pick

Créé par: Wreckless
Équipe: 2022-23 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 10 déc. 2022
Publié: 10 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Plus a 2023 fifth round pick.
Hardly an Earth shattering price to pay.

I think this team can win. Anderson plays on your first line.
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DAL
  1. Anderson, Josh
Détails additionnels:
The Josh Anderson showcase starts right now. 10 games with Suzuki and Caufield. How many points?
MTL
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Stars are not qualifying Gurianov.
Khodobin saves Dallas 3.333mm against the cap.
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10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 52
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Quoting: Campabee
Lehky also got a raise and 5 years, so his comment about both being overpaid just shows how little he understands about the value of anything other than points. There is a lot more to hockey than just putting up points! Also anyone who says Anderson sucks at defense obviously doesn't watch Habs games and are strictly going off stats they view online. Anderson is on the first wave of the 11th ranked PK unit in the league and starts almost 60% of the time in the defensive zone but he "sucks" defensively.


He literally does though. His DEF, EVD, xDEF, and xEVD are all in the negatives. Eye test not nearly as relaible as stats. Your eye test only shows the homer glasses you wear when watching Habs games. If you say Anderson is good defensively purely going off of eye tests, that just exposes your biases as literally everything else points towards him being bad defensively. Your only argument so far is "Anderson is good because I watched him and I THINK he is good"
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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 8
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Quoting: Juiceman
He literally does though. His DEF, EVD, xDEF, and xEVD are all in the negatives. Eye test not nearly as relaible as stats. Your eye test only shows the homer glasses you wear when watching Habs games. If you say Anderson is good defensively purely going off of eye tests, that just exposes your biases as literally everything else points towards him being bad defensively. Your only argument so far is "Anderson is good because I watched him and I THINK he is good"


Without ever watching a game, you are blindly trusting others stats and evaluations of players. You follow like a lemming off a cliff instead of forming your own opinions. Advanced stats have a place in player evaluation but only a place, they are not the be-all-end-all of player evaluation, at some point you are going to actually have to watch games to fill in what the stats do not show. Anderson starts 53.1% of the time in the defensive zone at 5 vs 5 and yet is only -1 on the season. I don't think that screams player who "sucks" defensively.
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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 16
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Quoting: Campabee
Without ever watching a game, you are blindly trusting others stats and evaluations of players. You follow like a lemming off a cliff instead of forming your own opinions. Advanced stats have a place in player evaluation but only a place, they are not the be-all-end-all of player evaluation, at some point you are going to actually have to watch games to fill in what the stats do not show. Anderson starts 53.1% of the time in the defensive zone at 5 vs 5 and yet is only -1 on the season. I don't think that screams player who "sucks" defensively.


So I should just trust you because? I'm am going to trust the analytics formulated by knowledgable people over a stranger on a hockey forum who has clear bias towards players. You are not reliable at all. +/- is one of the worst stats in hockey. If that is your best stat as an argument, I'm afraid I don't need to waste anymore time here
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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 28
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Lol


The Leafs certainly dont need an Anderson for the playoffs. Definitely not!
10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 30
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Quoting: Juiceman
So I should just trust you because? I'm am going to trust the analytics formulated by knowledgable people over a stranger on a hockey forum who has clear bias towards players. You are not reliable at all. +/- is one of the worst stats in hockey. If that is your best stat as an argument, I'm afraid I don't need to waste anymore time here


I never said to trust me, I said to watch games to formulate your own opinions. Analytics are a great tool just as are traditional stats but they only tell part of the story. To get the full picture you have to use all 3 (Analytics, traditional stats and the eye test) only using one is like looking at a great piece of artwork through a stained glass window, it's all blurry and distorted.
10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 32
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Quoting: Juiceman
So I should just trust you because? I'm am going to trust the analytics formulated by knowledgable people over a stranger on a hockey forum who has clear bias towards players. You are not reliable at all. +/- is one of the worst stats in hockey. If that is your best stat as an argument, I'm afraid I don't need to waste anymore time here


Trust facts. Lehkonen had the same rhetoric last year here that he couldnt put up points and was worthless.
Anderson puck retrieval especially in the playoffs is extremely valuable to many GMs otherwise reliable sources like Lebrun wouldnt have reported that Hughes refused some lucrative Anderson deals at last TDL. Those are the facts.

Pushing analytics at verbatim when the narrative around analytics change their definition on almost a daily basis?! I mean, we have our cults. Sounds like you've embraced Jfresh as your new God!
10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 34
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Trust facts. Lehkonen had the same rhetoric last year here that he couldnt put up points and was worthless.
Anderson puck retrieval especially in the playoffs is extremely valuable to many GMs otherwise reliable sources like Lebrun wouldnt have reported that Hughes refused some lucrative Anderson deals at last TDL. Those are the facts.

Pushing analytics at verbatim when the narrative around analytics change their definition on almost a daily basis?! I mean, we have our cults. Sounds like you've embraced Jfresh as your new God!


He has good skills, but is it worth 5.5 million dollars and high end assets? Tell me which contenders can actually afford a 5.5 million dollar bottom 6 player. Anderson hasn't been producing. Cap space is valuable. Lehkonen produced better last season than Anderson has been producing this season. Lehkonen was also very good defensively. You know what else? He was also very very cheap. Made it very affordable for the Avs to fit him in. Not only that, he is also younger. Those are the facts
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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 37
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Not sure what’s worse… the trade or your lines. The first and third lines are fine. We need somebody to play with Segs and Marchie. Preferably somebody that can drive play. Preferably somebody better than Anderson
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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 41
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
The Leafs certainly dont need an Anderson for the playoffs. Definitely not!


With the way he disappears in the post season, probably not!
10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 47
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Quoting: LukaTAG
With the way he disappears in the post season, probably not!


With the way The Leafs disappear in the post season, probably a waste!

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10 déc. 2022 à 23 h 50
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
With the way The Leafs disappear in the post season, probably a waste!

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Basically, Leafs don't want a 5.5 million dollar bottom 6 player who disappears in the post season. Capisce?
11 déc. 2022 à 8 h 25
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Quoting: Wreckless
By definition, it can’t be considered a « bad » contract if another GM « will » pay you for it regardless of whether or not one thinks they « should. »


No, these are "unmovable" contracts. Crazy concept: GMs aren't infaillibles.

Quoting: Wreckless
You though Chiarot was overpaid. And then Steve Yzerman game him a 36% raise and a 4 year term. But what does he know about building a cup winner. Except when he played. Oh, and that other team he built down south too…


Once again, a flawed way to analyze. The "great" Steve Yzerman gave a player a contract so it must mean every move he makes is a good move and he never makes a mistakes, right? It's not like Chiarot gets consistently outchanced and outplayed & is dragging down their best defenseman, right?!?
 
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