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McDavid and Debrincat reunited

Créé par: FromNunavut
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 25 nov. 2022
Publié: 25 nov. 2022
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    25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 28
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    Remove Bourgault and add Bouchard. And then Ottawa considers this. But then Edmonton probably doesn't do this.

    I don't see the potential trading partner fit.

    Edmonton really needs to solidify their bottom 6 and their defence and get one guy going in their top 6 but that doesn't need to be a star. I am surprised that one of Hollowell, PP or Yamamato are stepping up this year.
    25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 28
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    Getting Hoffman would be a mistake, how will they resign DeBrincat? Better off getting a 4m rental on defence, and playing Holloway.

    Quoting: TMLBRIAN
    I am surprised that one of Holloway, PP or Yamamato are stepping up this year.


    Fixed.
    25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 38
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    Quoting: GMBL
    Getting Hoffman would be a mistake, how will they resign DeBrincat? Better off getting a 4m rental on defence, and playing Holloway.



    Fixed.


    Getting rid of Barrie, Yamo, Puljujarvi and Foegele pretty well pays for his contract, they'd save about 3.3M if they bought out Hoffman too
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    25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 56
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    Quoting: FromNunavut
    Getting rid of Barrie, Yamo, Puljujarvi and Foegele pretty well pays for his contract, they'd save about 3.3M if they bought out Hoffman too


    Looking at the current roster you have 500k+4m cap increase (could be more) +any dead cap

    Potential raises:
    DeBrincat ~2.4m, Bouchard 1.5m+, Skinner 1.3m+, McLeod 500K+. Not sure, how much dead cap they have but they would be running out of money fast. They could get 3m with the Hoffman buy out but why go down that road in the first place? They need defensive help more than they would need him, so make more sense getting a 4-5m rental on defense.

    Just needs some rearranging of players and picks perhaps. Maybe Barrie to Ottawa with Hamonic coming back (pay a 4th for retention if it matters). Foegele sent off to Wsh for fc. Yamamoto+the 3rd (from Foegele trade)+more for a better D-man that could be available.
    25 nov. 2022 à 16 h 32
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    Hoffman pour Barrie, c'est un parfait échange d'étron.
    25 nov. 2022 à 17 h 16
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    Quoting: GMBL
    Looking at the current roster you have 500k+4m cap increase (could be more) +any dead cap

    Potential raises:
    DeBrincat ~2.4m, Bouchard 1.5m+, Skinner 1.3m+, McLeod 500K+. Not sure, how much dead cap they have but they would be running out of money fast. They could get 3m with the Hoffman buy out but why go down that road in the first place? They need defensive help more than they would need him, so make more sense getting a 4-5m rental on defense.

    Just needs some rearranging of players and picks perhaps. Maybe Barrie to Ottawa with Hamonic coming back (pay a 4th for retention if it matters). Foegele sent off to Wsh for fc. Yamamoto+the 3rd (from Foegele trade)+more for a better D-man that could be available.


    Hoffman you're arguing will be hard to move as a pending UFA if you need room next year?
    Thats the arguement here? You can always make a move and be paid for it with pending UFA's even the injury prone veterans close to retiring get atleast a 2nd round pick if not more depending on the Market.

    I'd suggest MTL loses value by moving him for a player we wont re-sign so EDM can dump cap.
    Given Barrie would get just as little ice time on Burrows PP as Hoffman does his offensive upside from PP wont be there for him.
    We'd get more waiting until next TDL and RS selling him to an overzealous team with tight cap space.

    As Hughes keeps saying we got teams interested in Hoffman just not at a Price he's willing to accept.
    He'd rather wait then RS like with Chiarot who everyone insisted wouldnt get any real value at the TDL (its all people said on this site)
    But in the end he got a 1st round pick , 4th round pick and a B to B+ level NCAA prospect

    Hoffman this time next year will be landing us a package that will include a similar NCAA Prospect to , 1st round pick and a 7th round.
    For a team with only 2-2.5m in cap and need help on Power Play then he's an easy sell to atleast 1/20 teams who are usually buyers with a few others that mostly just kick the tire's .

    Hoffman got screwed he signed up for a SCF team looking to make a run at the SCF again.
    What he ended up on was a team where his former linemate is Power Play Coach and will only give him shifted if everyone else is injured.
    Then he gets caught up in a full blown rebuild just as the mid 30s veteran winger had thought he found his team for a SCF run after taking a 1 year deal to assess his best options.
    He signed on for Weber, Price ,Chiraot,Petry, Danault,Lehkonen , Toffoli , Kotkanemi and many others who were fresh off a SCF hoping to be this runs next Perry.
    25 nov. 2022 à 17 h 32
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    Quoting: Billy739
    Hoffman you're arguing will be hard to move as a pending UFA if you need room next year?
    Thats the arguement here? You can always make a move and be paid for it with pending UFA's even the injury prone veterans close to retiring get atleast a 2nd round pick if not more depending on the Market.


    The issue is that they are unecessarily adding Hoffman and he's also an obstacle to resigning guys. Even if he can be bought out or traded that's still some cap wasted or time and effort spent trying to dump a guy. Holland would need to get all those guys signed and DeBrincat or trade him, he doesn't need more work.

    The Oilers need help on the D, if they add DeBrincat they will have more than enough star power in their top 6, they can even choose to run DeBrincat+McDavid+other, Hyman+Draisaitl, and Kane+RNH on the 3rd.

    If they are picking up Hoffman instead of DeBrincat, which is more realistic, then there's no issue.
    26 nov. 2022 à 19 h 37
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    I love Bourgault but if the Sens are trading DeBrincat it would need to be for a young-ish RHD stud


    If they can't, keep DeBrincat. I think his extension would be around 8.25 AAV x 7 or 8 years
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