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Who needs a goalie when the refs call back every goal

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Date de création initiale: 23 nov. 2022
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Three goals called back has got to be a league record.
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23 nov. 2022 à 21 h 47
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I hear They’re currently reviewing the 4th goal. Hamilton apparently said something mean to the ref. League is supposedly calling.
23 nov. 2022 à 21 h 50
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I hear They’re currently reviewing the 4th goal. Hamilton apparently said something mean to the ref. League is supposedly calling.


The 4th goal happened right when I hit submit on this.
23 nov. 2022 à 21 h 53
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Apparently that's the only way you can beat the Devils these days.
23 nov. 2022 à 21 h 57
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Apparently that's the only way you can beat the Devils these days.


I'll admit, I haven't seen the replays yet, so I'll review those before I pass judgement, but calling back three goals, against a team on the cusp of setting a new franchise record, in their barn, against the Leafs? That's a bad look.
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 0
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I'll admit, I haven't seen the replays yet, so I'll review those before I pass judgement, but calling back three goals, against a team on the cusp of setting a new franchise record, in their barn, against the Leafs? That's a bad look.


Some pretty weak calls in my opinion.
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 0
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I'll admit, I haven't seen the replays yet, so I'll review those before I pass judgement, but calling back three goals, against a team on the cusp of setting a new franchise record, in their barn, against the Leafs? That's a bad look.


2 of 3 I agree with. The second one called back I question.
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23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 3
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2 of 3 I agree with. The second one called back I question.


second was definitely goaltender interference even if you think murray oversold falling over
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 3
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2 of 3 I agree with. The second one called back I question.


Goalie interference has been..... Questionable this season.

I look back at the call in Anaheim where Henrique was battling a guy adjacent to the crease and it got called back. I don't agree with it, but if that's the standard okay.

The I watch the Ducks V Canucks 5 days later and Gibson gets turned 90 degrees by a cannuck and that goal isn't called back for GI???
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 3
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I'll admit, I haven't seen the replays yet, so I'll review those before I pass judgement, but calling back three goals, against a team on the cusp of setting a new franchise record, in their barn, against the Leafs? That's a bad look.


Before you pass judgment? You created a whole AGM team trolling and you didn't watch the plays?
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23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 6
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Modifié 23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 14
I wonder if Lindy Ruff had deja vu on the first goal called back? I bet he wished the Brett Hull in the crease goal vs Dallas in the 1999 SCF was disallowed.

https://youtu.be/XOSo4U5ZVVA

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23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 21
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At least two of the goals should have stood. One was 50/50. Refs blew it.
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 24
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Before you pass judgment? You created a whole AGM team trolling and you didn't watch the plays?


Watched the third one live, needed to review the other two.

Based on other GI I've seen this season, 1 was questionable, but there was maybe more than incidental contact, and since Marner was just holding him with the stick and not pushing him into Murray directly, fine.

2nd was a complete flop, Murray wasn't paying attention and had to sell it. Holy **** that was a bad call.

3rd goal, rules as written, Refs got it right. I think that rule needs to be rewritten if it's intent is to prevent kicking motion of the puck, but right call.
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

2nd was a complete flop, Murray wasn't paying attention and had to sell it.


Only saw a quick replay of the second so I'm not sure about that assessment, but if you're right, then I guess Murray made the save in the end.
23 nov. 2022 à 22 h 47
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Some pretty weak calls in my opinion.


First one should have been a goal for sure, second one was interference no doubt about it. Third one I want to see from the other side cause IMO the Devil kicked it into the scrum but it looked like it bounced off a couple defenders then went I'm the net. IMO the angle they showed wasn't clear enough to make thecall either way though.

Edit just saw a better angle it definitely deflected of the Leafs player, the 3rd goal should have counted. But according to the rule its not a goal, such BS
23 nov. 2022 à 23 h 44
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First one should have been a goal for sure, second one was interference no doubt about it. Third one I want to see from the other side cause IMO the Devil kicked it into the scrum but it looked like it bounced off a couple defenders then went I'm the net. IMO the angle they showed wasn't clear enough to make thecall either way though.

Edit just saw a better angle it definitely deflected of the Leafs player, the 3rd goal should have counted. But according to the rule its not a goal, such BS


Distinct kicking motion rule covers that. If it is kicked, and it goes in as a result of the kick, even if it redirects after the kick, it's no goal. 3rd callback was 100% right.
23 nov. 2022 à 23 h 55
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I'll admit, I haven't seen the replays yet, so I'll review those before I pass judgement, but calling back three goals, against a team on the cusp of setting a new franchise record, in their barn, against the Leafs? That's a bad look.


I missed the first one but the 2nd and 3rd were the right call. It was ridiculous it happened but it's not like you are left scratching your head.
23 nov. 2022 à 23 h 59
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First one should have been a goal for sure, second one was interference no doubt about it. Third one I want to see from the other side cause IMO the Devil kicked it into the scrum but it looked like it bounced off a couple defenders then went I'm the net. IMO the angle they showed wasn't clear enough to make thecall either way though.

Edit just saw a better angle it definitely deflected of the Leafs player, the 3rd goal should have counted. But according to the rule its not a goal, such BS


By that logic, if you catch the puck and then throw it at an opposing players chest and it goes it, that's a good goal? You'd lose your mind if Montreal had a goal scored against them like that. He kicked it at the net and it went in, it's a clear and correct rule.
24 nov. 2022 à 1 h 8
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By that logic, if you catch the puck and then throw it at an opposing players chest and it goes it, that's a good goal? You'd lose your mind if Montreal had a goal scored against them like that. He kicked it at the net and it went in, it's a clear and correct rule.


Well, he kicked it away from the net, clearly was trying to get it to his stick, but got stood up, and in the process, it bounced off a Leafs shin.
24 nov. 2022 à 6 h 49
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I hear alot of complaining. It's great you are passionate but the refs made the right calls.
24 nov. 2022 à 6 h 57
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Well, he kicked it away from the net, clearly was trying to get it to his stick, but got stood up, and in the process, it bounced off a Leafs shin.


He kicked it towards the net and it went in. The rule is clear. That was the most concrete one of the 3. The 2nd one was clear as well.
24 nov. 2022 à 8 h 30
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He kicked it towards the net and it went in. The rule is clear. That was the most concrete one of the 3. The 2nd one was clear as well.


1. Being a Habs fan doesn't automatically make me anti-Leafs. The Leafs are actually my 3rd favorite team behind the Habs and Avs. I grew up a Leafs fan and only switched to the Habs at 13. Also the Devils are among my 3 least favorite teams along with Boston and Detroit.

2. The Devil player kicked the puck on an angle that was back away from the net not towards the net. That's irregardless though as according to the rule it went in as a result of the kick. I actually thought the rule stated that it would count if it touched opposing player, much like the high-stick rule, where If a player knocks down the puck with a high stick and an opposing player plays the puck first then play continues. Either way I was wrong about it and admitted it in the edit.

3. I think the rule should be changed to where there has to be intent on the play. Yes the Devil player kicked it away from the goalie but it wasn't headed towards the net until the Leafs player deflected it. According to the way the rule is written if a player kicks the puck and an opposing player gets it then loses control of it and it goes in or the opposing player tries to dump it into the corner then the goal won't count either. That's just not right in my opinion, I agree pucks can't just be kicked in but I think the intent of the kick has to be taken into consideration. For instance, if the Leafs and Devils are in a scrum along the boards behind the net and a Leaf player kicks the puck free to a player in front of the net but it deflects off the goalies skate or a Devil player, that should count but according to the rule it wouldn’t. The intent wasn't to kick it in but the result was it went in, that IMO should be a good goal.
 
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