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Couple Moves

Créé par: Prime_Jimbo
Date de création initiale: 20 nov. 2022
Publié: 20 nov. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (DAL)
  4. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (DAL)
DAL
  1. Garland, Conor
2.
VAN
  1. Krebs, Peyton
BUF
  1. Höglander, Nils
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Bo Horvat: 1 375 000 $ (25%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 840 416 $1 250 000 $2 195 000 $1 659 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Elias
7 350 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Mikheyev, Ilya
4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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Horvat, Bo
4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Boeser, Brock
6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Krebs, Peyton
863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Gurianov, Denis
2 900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Joshua, Dakota
825 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Åman, Nils
883 750 $
C
RFA - 2
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Lazar, Curtis
1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Hughes, Quinn
7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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Schenn, Luke
850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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Bear, Ethan
1 800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Martin, Spencer
762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Studnicka, Jack
762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Burroughs, Kyle
750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Poolman, Tucker
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Stillman, Riley
1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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Khudobin, Anton
3 333 333 $ (2 208 333 $)
G
UFA - 1

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20 nov. 2022 à 2 h 2
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Sabres clearly aren't doing that
20 nov. 2022 à 2 h 53
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Buffalo pass, it makes little sense. We need other players.
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 25
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Buffalo pass, it makes little sense. We need other players.


Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres clearly aren't doing that


Honestly, what is wrong with this deal? Neither player is turning out to be a significant needle mover for their respective teams
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 30
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Honestly, what is wrong with this deal? Neither player is turning out to be a significant needle mover for their respective teams


Krebs was a main part of the Eichel deal, Krebs is a center, the last thing Buffalo needs are small streaky scoring wingers that don't play defense but also that can't score and has no
other intangibles. They could just call up Weissbach if they wanted. Krebs is a GMKA guy, who for now should be viewed as untouchable merely because of the context of his acquisition, and Hoglander couldn't be any more redundant and useless on the Sabres roster
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 36
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Krebs was a main part of the Eichel deal, Krebs is a center, the last thing Buffalo needs are small streaky scoring wingers that don't play defense but also that can't score and has no
other intangibles. They could just call up Weissbach if they wanted. Krebs is a GMKA guy, who for now should be viewed as untouchable merely because of the context of his acquisition, and Hoglander couldn't be any more redundant and useless on the Sabres roster


Krebs's trade history shouldn't be what makes him untouchable, he isn't being impactful for the team and he's not a teenager anymore. That's a foolish and petty way to treat assets
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 39
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Krebs's trade history shouldn't be what makes him untouchable, he isn't being impactful for the team and he's not a teenager anymore. That's a foolish and petty way to treat assets


Even if that were true that doesn't nullify the second part, Hoglander is absolutely useless to Buffalo. If they're moving Krebs, they have plenty of holes to fill, they arent moving him for a player they have at least 5 of already and almost all of them are better than Hoglander
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Even if that were true that doesn't nullify the second part, Hoglander is absolutely useless to Buffalo. If they're moving Krebs, they have plenty of holes to fill, they arent moving him for a player they have at least 5 of already and almost all of them are better than Hoglander


But none of those players have proven ANYTHING at the NHL level, you're in no position to say any of them are better than Hoglander, and Krebs hasn't been playing center for the most part. He's been on the wing
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 52
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
But none of those players have proven ANYTHING at the NHL level, you're in no position to say any of them are better than Hoglander, and Krebs hasn't been playing center for the most part. He's been on the wing


Skinner, Olofsson, Peterka, Quinn. They don't need anymore, they need less, they need wingers that have other skill sets. Krebs is a center and they're developing him as a center, Mittlestadt was even on his wing last game and he, Mittlestadt, is the only center that can win faceoffs on this team
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20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 56
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Skinner, Olofsson, Peterka, Quinn. They don't need anymore, they need less, they need wingers that have other skill sets. Krebs is a center and they're developing him as a center, Mittlestadt was even on his wing last game and he's the only center that can win faceoffs on this team


Okay, I see what you mean now
20 nov. 2022 à 10 h 16
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Skinner, Olofsson, Peterka, Quinn. They don't need anymore, they need less, they need wingers that have other skill sets. Krebs is a center and they're developing him as a center, Mittlestadt was even on his wing last game and he's the only center that can win faceoffs on this team


I wasn't sure if he was getting any center time. It didn't seem like it. Both Hog and Krebs had good 1st years and down production after. Just throwing it out there. As I thought a Hog-Mittlestadt-JJP might be an interesting look.
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20 nov. 2022 à 11 h 23
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I wasn't sure if he was getting any center time. It didn't seem like it. Both Hog and Krebs had good 1st years and down production after. Just throwing it out there. As I thought a Hog-Mittlestadt-JJP might be an interesting look.


Peterka has been anchored to Cozens. Also I still don't know what Hoglander adds, "factually" as one would say. The Sabres are too small and get out muscled every game already
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20 nov. 2022 à 11 h 26
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Peterka has been anchored to Cozens. Also I still don't know what Hoglander adds, "factually" as one would say. The Sabres are too small and get out muscled every game already


Peterka is equally adept on either wing?
20 nov. 2022 à 11 h 27
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Peterka is equally adept on either wing?


Idk if I've seen him on the left, they've flipped Quinn back and forth
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20 nov. 2022 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Peterka has been anchored to Cozens. Also I still don't know what Hoglander adds, "factually" as one would say. The Sabres are too small and get out muscled every game already


I have been saying that since the summer when it was apparent there wouldn't be any big acquisitions. Just looking at our top 9, I was thinking, they better be really good because they are awfully soft. Of course I thought they would get the full year to evaluate them before adams decided just how he would address the shortfall. Unfortunately long losing streaks are the one thing that might make adams do something. Hoglander should not be a target for exactly the reasons you mention- Krebs can play center, and we already have too many of what hoglander brings.
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