Why is Buffalo trading for rentals lol. Keep the 2023 pick.

This seems like moves Tim Murray or Jason Botterill would make

I like this roster but may as well keep Joker until at least the offseason

This is not a rental, I forgot to write that Meier signs an extension. Murray sold all our futures, we still have a huge number of prospects and choices after these transactions. Meier is the perfect forward that Buffalo needs, he's scores points, he's playing the physical game and his age is right.

No problem, I do not mind, let him compete with Reilly and Boosh for a place in the third pair.

Woooooaaaaahhh there’s no way I’d give up all that for Conor Murphy.

And I would give up. It's not really that much.

Overpaying for a power forward isn't what Buffalo needs. Don't need to add another Skinner contract. He'll be 27. Most of his contract he'd be out of his prime. Power forwards also notoriously age bad because of their physical style.

2023 draft is looking to be one of the best in recent memory. Sabres will likely be in the 10-16 spot. That's your best bet and cheap good talent. The one thing you shouldn't trade.

Problem with Meier I think is that he is owed 10 mil on his next contract

Idk man, a former first rounder and a 2nd round pick is a little steep of a price imo. I think you could get a better player than Murphy for that. Granted, I also am not a huge Murphy fan.

Why are we trading away Joker now for nothing? He's 3rd on the team in GF% at 62.5.

We're so deep at Defense (no) that we can just trade away former 1st round picks for 2nd round picks? People really have no clue about asset management. And you're talking about not trading away futures? You've given up 4 former/future 1st round picks and have gotten 2 back. You've given up 9 assets for 6.

And your idea to make the D better is to bring in a player that just cleared waivers that no NHL team wanted?

Well, I don't agree. You're forgetting, the team sucks for 12 years, that's not how it works, "We have to wait another 3-5-10 years", no, man, enough of this ****. We already have a great pool of prospects, but there are also gaps in the roster that need to be filled in order for this young team to thrive. Meier is a much more versatile player than Skinner. He is 26 years old, I don't think he will fall off a cliff at 30 years old, if he is 2-3 years older, I would not make such a deal.

Johnson's value is now a late second because that's what the team will get if he doesn't sign. I think Murphy is worth more than a late second because he's a legit top 4 RD for second pair, who plays defense, plays physical and has a reasonable contract with term.

In this scenario, we sign it for less.

His style fits the team, I won’t argue that, but I just think you could pick up someone with his skillset for less. Kinda like we did with Boosh

Jokiharju is just not good, he is either always injured or constantly unstable. Did you see his metrics last season?

A former first-round pick means nothing if he's not good. You are also not a great strategist who does not offer a damn thing and continues to talk nonsense.

I added a legal top 6 forward, a top 4 RD and a bottom 6 forward with physical play to the team. Reilly is a normal option for a third pair. Boston waive him down because they need a seat in the cap. Come on, search the Internet for all the GF, xG in the rest of the metrics.

Because the team has been bad you have to make desperate moves? I don't get it. Do you want to be bad for even longer? Just trading for players doesn't make you good. Take a look at Ottawa. Sabres shouldn't trade a 1st until they prove they can make the playoffs.

The contract would kick in at 27. Most power forwards have steep declines in their 30s. Look at recent guys like Corey Perry, Jamie Benn, Milan Lucic, Ryan Kesler, Bobby Ryan, Wayne Simmonds, David Backes, Nick Foligno, Dustin Brown, Andrew Ladd, James Neal.... Overpaying for Meier (probably want 9M+ for 8 years in Buffalo) would just make your cap a mess. Trading for Meier would be a move that a playoff team would make.

Team should be smart. Make smart moves in the summer. Try to take advantage of team in a bad cap situation. Not panic because of a losing stretch.

Joker is arguably the same or better than Murphy.

Boosh is not a top 4 defender and never was, he is good as a physical third pair defender. I mean, where are you going to pick up such a player now in November? Maybe summer. But a guy like Mayfield will get the bank at UFA, his contract will be much bigger than Murphy's. I just don't think I'm turning down a lot of roster improvement with players under 30 with term that will help this team take the next step. All three players (Meier, Murphy and Lorentz play a physical game, quality players for their roles). Reilly has decent metrics and Bryson was terrible. We don't even have to pay for it to get him.

Player 1: 60GP
Player2: 57GP

Player 1: -8
Player 2: -14

Player 1: 21:53 ATOI
Player 2: 21:46

Their 1st is expendable

I don't see anything desperate in this. This is the improvement of the composition that we need. Not all physical forwards have fallen at 30 years old, I think Mayer may still have 5-6 good years.

I just do not agree with the slow development of the team completely from the inside. Time is the problem. They can't just wait and lose because it will be a repeat of the losing culture that was under Murray, under Botterill, Eichel and company. These players will turn into new Eichel, ROR, Ullmark, Reinhart and Risto who want to leave due to constant loss and this is a vicious circle. Look at New Jersey, look at Detroit. There GMs make improvements, even Yzerman understands when rebuilding that the team needs to improve and develop, despite the rebuilding that has not yet been completed. I do not agree that we should do nothing and just sit and wait.

LMAO

No ****ing way. Let him prove it, stop talking nonsense.

And? Reilly replaces Bryson, not Joker. Joki just isn't that good.

I actually agree with this. I wish Jokiharju would take a step forward, but Murphy is pretty overrated, and both are just as injured as each other. Id upgrade Jokiharju, but theirs better options than Murphy

Skinner is on a point per game pace. The Sabres are also at the cap floor and the NHL is expecting one of the largest cap ceiling jumps in league history. Theyre also more than likely going to draft a dman, of which there are not many expected to go in the 1st round.