I'm ready for more Swedes!

2017 called, they want their top-pairing back

Why is Vancouver sending the 2nd round pick to SJS?

Because EK is still decent (just not worth his contract) and we need to entice the Sharks just a little - also the retention

EK's contract has more negative value than Myers and Pearson combined

Not sure thats true. Myers is ass (750k 6/7th D level ass) and Pearson is a 4th liner on a good team.
EK is still very-very good offensively

No. Hes a very credible #4-5 worth about 3-4m depending on the day, given the fact that he is big and a righty he is probably worth closer to 4. Look what Gudbranson signed for. Myers isnt making a cent less than that and yes pearson is probably a 4th liner, but he can play up very well for a fair amount of time

I agree with the things you have said in this ACGM and the thing I respond with is, Vancouver needs a better 2-way D than one that is good offensively.

No he is not lmao. Thinking this is why your team has sucked for so long.
And just because other teams make bad decisions (Like Gudbranson) doesn't mean thats what the players are actually worth.

In actual value Van comes out really well, the part where they hurt is the term and risk associated with that

Sure, and Bear has (in limited minutes) had some decent defensive metrics - hence his inclusion here.

In terms of a higher end option - I don't see anyone available that the Canucks can afford.

Myers and Pearson have 2 years left under contract, both are probably overpaid but the Canucks would need some serious compensation to take on EK at $10M for 5 more years (as in multiple 1sts)

The serious compensation is that EK is SIGNIFICANTLY better than those guys.
If it isn't obv, i'm remaking the OEL trade here - and yeah the term is the downside. That is the trade off for having a stupid management group being forced to win by your even less intelligent owner.

The team should have traded Miller, and not traded for OEL - then you could have tanked for Bedard and built around Bedard-EP40-Hughes - but alas here we are in a ill fated win now approach

4th liners are .5 ppg nowadays?

Yes actually - the good ones. scoring is up 40 points isn't much these days. Besides there is a lot more to hockey than points and Pearson isn't good in most of them. If he were paid 1.5 ish playing as a bottom 6 guy (4th on a good team) He'd be well liked

That is just lies. Pearson put up 0.5 points per game last season. Myers isn't great, but he isn't a 6th 7th d men. Karlsson at 10 mil is still one of the worst contracts in the entire league. Pearson and Myers both only have 2 years left compared to Karlsson with 5 years left. Horrendous trade for Vancouver. Absolutely no thought was put in this trade clearly.

Pearson is exactly the kind of guy who does all the little things. Good at puck battles around the boards, isn't a defensive liability. You just lack any knowledge about the Canucks players

If Pearson played the full 82 last year he’d of had 41 points. That would be 7th on the Avalanche for forwards. He also does all the little things. He’s not a 4th liner.

EDIT: Other teams I looked at:

Leafs: 7th
Rangers: 5th
Panthers: 9th
Lightning: 7th
Oilers: 5th
Hurricanes: 6th
Flames: 5th
Bruins: 7th
Stars: 6th
Kings: 6th
Wild: 8th
Predators: 6th
Penguins: 7th
Blues: 10th!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!! You have 1
Capitals: 5th

Fandom is what it is but you guys are simply out to lunch on your players values here.
The reason your team is bad is because your players are bad. Signifigantly so. On EK




Im starting to think watching canucks hockey makes you less intelligent and unable to properly eval players. Need to do a study on that. Nothing youve said here is true.





See above

You perfectly proved my point. Erik Karlsson 3% even strength defense. He doesn’t improve the defense because he sucks af defense. He provides offense which is not what we need, especially for 10 mil. Your second Jfresh card is literally 2 years old. Maybe put more effort into your responses and I would take you more seriously

So you admit Pearson is a middle six winger?

Low end middle six winger as of a year ago is what we'd call a 3rd liner. On a good team hed be playing on the 4th. You can twist yourself into knots all you want but ive been saying the same thing throughout.



You need good players, in particular from the right side of your back end. Playing D isnt only about defence. It would be better to call them backs instead, and Karlsson has been better than 94% of players.

I don't pay for his cards, i just use what i have. But all his cards are 3 year samples so it wont change much in the 1 year (not 2) its been lmao. Youd think someone trying to not take me seriously could do basic math here.

Youre wrong and overvalued your players to an insane degree. Try and get this through your head.

Your team sucks ass because the players you employ suck ass.

So production wise, he’s a second to third liner, analytically (your argument) he’s a second to third liner. But he’s not a second to third liner on a good team because??? You’ve given 0 reasoning

No. He has never been a 2nd liner. He is a 3rd liner on a mediocre team and a deep team he is a 4th liner. Stop making this so difficult

He played with Miller a ton last year. His most common line mate was Horvat for several years. Give me 1 reason he’s a 4th liner?

Buddy. You arent listening
He is a bottom 6er.
A 4th liner on a good team.

Being played higher in the lineup doesnt change that - it mostly just says that your team is ****

He is a second liner on a bad team. He is a third liner on a good team. You’re analytics back that up, his stats back that up, and his ice time backs that up. You haven’t even made an argument to why he’s a 4th liner outside of “on a good team he’s a fourth liner because I say so”