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Its hard to make this team worse

Créé par: Jwalker5121
Équipe: 2022-23 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 19 oct. 2022
Publié: 19 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Simmonds, Wayne
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne (2 000 000 $ retained)
2.
ARI
  1. Pinto, Shane
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
2023 1st top 10 Protected
2025 2nd for retaining salary
OTT
  1. Chychrun, Jakob (2 300 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $61 683 792 $0 $2 332 500 $20 816 208 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
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7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
853 333 $853 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 775 000 $1 775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 725 000 $2 725 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
733 333 $733 333 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
886 667 $886 667 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 125 875 $1 125 875 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1

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19 oct. 2022 à 17 h 53
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if ottawa was willing to trade pinto, chychrun would already be a senator
19 oct. 2022 à 17 h 54
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Arizona isn't retaining.
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19 oct. 2022 à 17 h 56
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MOVE THE COYOTES
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Arizona isn't retaining.


And why not?
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if ottawa was willing to trade pinto, chychrun would already be a senator

Yeah.
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 4
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And why not?
Yeah.


How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Ottawa wouldn't trade Pinto anyway.
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19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 8
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MOVE THE COYOTES
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Ottawa wouldn't trade Pinto anyway.


Yeah your right we wouldn’t. Sorry ig I didn’t realize he still had 3 years in his contract.
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19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 14
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Pinto = automatic decline (same for Greig)

Ottawa has Chabot, Zub and now Sanderson joining the team and adding a lot to the defense. But not only that, Brannstrom is breaking out and looks fantastic so far.

Then there's several good young projects like JBD, Kleven, Thomson, Hamara, Nordberg, etc.

Holden and Hamonic are not awful 3rd pairing stop gaps.

The need for Chychrun is shrinking by the day, Sens have the luxury to "wait it out"


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Zaitsev, Nikita
Thomson, Lassi
Sokolov, Egor
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
How many teams have ever retained 50% on a fair to good value contract with three years of term on it?

Yotes need to make cap floor. only way they can do it is to retain, Pinto is good but the sens have a log jam forming at F and everyone else is extended. it makes sense for Ottawa cause they need the D help and paying a top 4 man 2.25m for 3 years is a great deal. Arizona wants to suck and get young players, If retaining helps both those goals, they would do it
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Pinto = automatic decline (same for Greig)

Ottawa has Chabot, Zub and now Sanderson joining the team and adding a lot to the defense. But not only that, Brannstrom is breaking out and looks fantastic so far.

Then there's several good young projects like JBD, Kleven, Thomson, Hamara, Nordberg, etc.

Holden and Hamonic are not awful 3rd pairing stop gaps.

The need for Chychrun is shrinking by the day, Sens have the luxury to "wait it out"

Counter :

Zaitsev, Nikita
Thomson, Lassi
Sokolov, Egor
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)


My thought on it was. The sens top 6 for the next 4 years is set. Especially at C making a luxury. unless you want to waist his potential playing as a 3C. Move him when his value is high
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 31
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the leafs arnt spending a 1st on a near 30 year old offensive defender who is a pending UFA that they dont even remotly need
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 42
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the leafs arnt spending a 1st on a near 30 year old offensive defender who is a pending UFA that they dont even remotly need


They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 46
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They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season


Nick Foligno was a defensive forward who could score and provide depth. They over paid for him (and he got immediately hurt) but it was still a need.
They didnt give up a 1st to move Mrazek, they moved back in the draft like 10 spots or whatever to move mrazek, and they did that because they needed cap space and he was hurt all the time.
They would not trade it for a guy they simply do not need because they dont need defencemen at all.
19 oct. 2022 à 18 h 58
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They paid a 1st for Nick foligno and gave up a first for their backup to play on a different team. They would pay this for a guy who would have been 2nd in leaf's D scoring last season


Dubas has since made it clear that he's not spending a first on rentals
19 oct. 2022 à 19 h 3
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My thought on it was. The sens top 6 for the next 4 years is set. Especially at C making a luxury. unless you want to waist his potential playing as a 3C. Move him when his value is high


ok you have the right to have your own ideas but that's clearly not the Sens plan with Pinto. Norris is signed for 8 years and Stutzle for 9 years. These 3 guys will be here for the foreseeable future
19 oct. 2022 à 19 h 5
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Retaining is the only way they can hit the cap floor??..

Sorry but the "hitting the cap floor" narrative is one of the dumbest ones on here, they can sign some guys or take someone's LTIR problem for free or take back a UFA to make the cap floor.

Theres a multitude of ways to hit the cap floor that doesn't involve retaining 50% for three seasons on Chycrun.
 
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