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My take on a Robertson deal

Créé par: Skyraider112
Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 29 sept. 2022
Publié: 29 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Tell me the value. That is a trade I'd be okay with as a Sabres fan even though that is a lot of pieces leaving the organization
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
89 500 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Robertson, Jason [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
I would also consider adding Peterka to the deal but at the cost of removing Johnson and changing the 2024 pick into a 2nd
DAL
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Olofsson, Victor
  3. Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]
  4. Savoie, Matthew
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
For the sake of the trade both Portillo and Johnson sign with Dallas before becoming UFAs. 2023 1st is top 3 protected, moves to unprotected 2025 1st. 2024 1st is unprotected
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $65 683 334 $0 $3 537 500 $16 816 666 $

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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 25
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It won't be a package for futures since Dallas is competing right now. It would be like Thompson ++ but even then I doubt they would accept.
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29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 29
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Too much, manufacture your own 50 goal scorer at that price, bide your time grab another gift if you draft in a similar spot next year and keep the build going. A youth movement the league will be jealous of very soon, don’t give it away for one expensive piece that will come when the team is good, through free agency with out losing anyone, everybody loves a winner, don’t mess with the dynasty before it starts.
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29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 46
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I have heard the rumors that Buffalo might be interested in getting him, but also why now.
If they sign him to a 9.5 - 10 long-term deal, then you are not going to be able to keep one of Powers, Quinn, Krebs or Powers.
Now I understand these players are likely not going to be a 40-goal scorers, but also are we sure that Roberston will also play at that level consistently?
you also still have skinner for 4 more seasons after this one at 9, he had a 40-goal season, look how that aged now.
29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 51
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Quoting: gavinray
It won't be a package for futures since Dallas is competing right now. It would be like Thompson ++ but even then I doubt they would accept.


Thompson++? He scored almost as much last season as Robertson and he is our 1C, no thx.
29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 52
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No thx
29 sept. 2022 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: Fjordy
Thompson++? He scored almost as much last season as Robertson and he is our 1C, no thx.


You have to give to get. What would you give up Thompson for? Also, there's a big difference between 68 points in 78 games and 79 points in 74 games.
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29 sept. 2022 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: gavinray
You have to give to get. What would you give up Thompson for? Also, there's a big difference between 68 points in 78 games and 79 points in 74 games.


Yeah, I saw how Sens give for DeBrincat, I evaluate Robertson as well as him. There is also a difference between a center and a winger. I wouldn't trade Thompson for Robertson and ten points difference in the last sseason doesn't do that for me.
30 sept. 2022 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: Birtle34
Too much, manufacture your own 50 goal scorer at that price, bide your time grab another gift if you draft in a similar spot next year and keep the build going. A youth movement the league will be jealous of very soon, don’t give it away for one expensive piece that will come when the team is good, through free agency with out losing anyone, everybody loves a winner, don’t mess with the dynasty before it starts.


50 goal players don't just magically appear. It is exceedingly rare to get one. Robertson has the potential to be that, but he's more of a 40 goal player. Agree with the future of Buffalo being bright. I posted this trade not because I think they should do it, but that would be my offer to Dallas as Sabres GM.

Quoting: NDoody
I have heard the rumors that Buffalo might be interested in getting him, but also why now.
If they sign him to a 9.5 - 10 long-term deal, then you are not going to be able to keep one of Powers, Quinn, Krebs or Powers.
Now I understand these players are likely not going to be a 40-goal scorers, but also are we sure that Roberston will also play at that level consistently?
you also still have skinner for 4 more seasons after this one at 9, he had a 40-goal season, look how that aged now.


100% Robertson will play at that level or higher for many years. He is an absolute beast. He's worth 9-9.5 mil for long term, Dallas seems to be hesitating to pay him that which is rough. Skinner AAV not great but he is still a great top 6 player. He will get 30+ goals a season for the foreseeable future. A better AAV for him would have been 7 mil. But honestly for a team with tons of cap space, 2 mil difference is nothing
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30 sept. 2022 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: Skyraider112
50 goal players don't just magically appear. It is exceedingly rare to get one. Robertson has the potential to be that, but he's more of a 40 goal player. Agree with the future of Buffalo being bright. I posted this trade not because I think they should do it, but that would be my offer to Dallas as Sabres GM.



100% Robertson will play at that level or higher for many years. He is an absolute beast. He's worth 9-9.5 mil for long term, Dallas seems to be hesitating to pay him that which is rough. Skinner AAV not great but he is still a great top 6 player. He will get 30+ goals a season for the foreseeable future. A better AAV for him would have been 7 mil. But honestly for a team with tons of cap space, 2 mil difference is nothing


My response is more on cap going forward, and the build of a nucleus before the big move, right base set up in Buffalo, and a ufa could hit that lineup and hit the ground running. There’s lots of kids in the lineup that they need to figure out before they add that final piece type move, and when they are that close firsts are going to be key to add at deadline. I like your idea but just a touch early in my opinion and possibly too much to sacrifice. Quite a squad a brewing, ufa in a year or two going to flock like gaudreau to colombus
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