Hard pass from Seattle.

Care to elaborate or explain your position at all!?

Nope, Leafs fans will argue until they're blue in the face (or maybe they already are?) that Kerfoot and Sandin are worth a whole more than they are.

Nope, Leafs fans will argue until they're blue in the face (or maybe they already are?) that Kerfoot and Sandin are worth a whole more than they are.

That doesn’t explain why you think Seattle would pass.

I am expecting Leafs fans to say Sandin won’t be Traded though

The problem with your statement on Sandin is, Flames fans are the same way with Valimaki.

Kerfoot has value, but to a specific team set, and SEA isn't it. He's a guy that gets traded at the deadline for a second or third to a playoff favorite team that needs to shore up botto 6 depth. Unfotunately, the Leafs have been forced to use him in a second line role, and really need to move him early in the season to clear up space.

Sandin has value to a ton of teams. He's offensively minded, can be physical and has proven he can play in the NHL. He gives SEA more of a future outlook than Soucy does, as he's a UFA next year, while there are still a number of team control years with Sandin.

Holl is in essence a cap dump, but is a serviceable bottom pairing guy that can step up in a pinch and play 20 minutes a night. If the Leafs don't trade him before start of season to clear cap, I'd rather just hang on to him as a depth option for the playoffs. He knows the systems and the guys. It's better than bringing in rental depth.

KingofRnR I'd move him if it would bring in a key piece for this year. The cap shedding factor helps immensely in this offer, esp with Soucy coming back. I think SEA gets a great piece, and since they only have a commitment this year to Holl and Kerfoot, I think it's a win for them, and an improvement for the Leafs

Well dubas doesn’t want to trade sandin, he’s probably gonna sign at some point. I also don’t really see an offer sheet even coming either. Nylander signed in November maybe sandin signs in November too

Might happen. That's not really good for both the Player or the Team though. I think Sandin should sign for exactly what Liljegren received = $1.4mil x 2 yrs otherwise he's just being Selfish & Greedy and isn't being a Team Player given the Cap situation the Leafs are currently in and the deal Giordano agreed too to help him get signed

The alternative seems to be playing short with a 21 man roster, having to pay to move Holl or getting little to nothing to move Kerfoot out. I don't see Muzzin being moved without a huge payment, so they're better off holding on to him

Yeah it’s a tough situation, but sandin is better than Lily, so I’d give him at least 1.7 for 2 years. Or at the most 1.6 for 2 years. That would be a soild contract for him

Interesting, based on what I see and the little I've heard, I'd prefer Liljegren. He's Bigger and More Defensive. Tougher to find Good Right Shot RD's too

Interesting, based on what I see and the little I've heard, I'd prefer Liljegren. He's Bigger and More Defensive. Tougher to find Good Right Shot RD's too

They're two very different styles of defensemen, and in the NHL atm offensive dmen are valued more and paid for it. I think the leafs would be thinking too short if they trade Sandin, he could eventually take over for Morgan in the #1 LD spot if given the opportunity. YES MOXNIX He's that talented, get over it.

No he's no, he's just another Brannstrom. A marginal NHL player at best, more likely winds up a bust and back in the AHL.