A Miller trade I can get behind. Next the Canucks need Ostlund so we can have the Ohgren-Ostlund-Lekkerimakki line

i like this one

I love Miller but he doesn’t fit Minnesota’s timeline whatsoever

Minnesota declines. You aren't getting a 1st, top prospect, in addition to 1st round pick fir rental Minnesota isn't resigning. Dude isn't eichel. Guerin hasn't spent a 1st round pick or prospect on rental and he won't now

And this isn’t the Eichel package

Miller is better than Eichel and has doesn't have an injured neck compromising his career. The only thing Eichel has on Miller is age and contract term. Miller also is two times cheaper

Good thing this isn't even close to what Eichel got then

Three 1st round picks? Yeah no

Miller needs to get paid and is a rental. Nobody has paid the asking and Canucks fans keep asking for same thing over again

1round pick
Prospect just selected a month ago in 1st round
Future 1st for resigned but sure it's not

If Miller puts up 90 points this might be close to the Eichel package picks wise

Also, Alex Tuch

Yeah no, not as a rental. Apparently Canucks fans can't understand teams won't pay that which is why jt hasn't been traded. Minnesota isn't the place to get your wish

I never said anything about comparing Miller to Eichel.

This package is nowhere near the Eichel package either though. Millers package is likely 2 of: Top 4 RD, 2023 first, High valued prospect

Apparently according to Canucks fans, jt Miller as a rental is worth a record trade that will not happen. At best he's worth a 1st and prospect as a rental no more..MIN isn't interested in jt Miller. This has been discussed to death

I’ve barely seen any Miller to MIN trades

And yes. He’s worth a first and a prospect. That is all Canucks fans are asking for. A first and a good prospect

Today has been a bunch by non wild fans. Like the one trolling with Rossi involved. But Canucks fans will get what they want @ deadline, not from Minnesota

I think any sensible Canucks fan knows we aren’t getting Rossi. But a 1st and top prospect for Miller isn’t an outrageous ask at all

huh?

It's just a shame the Parise/Suter buyouts are so heavy. As a Wild fan, I actually would be ok sending out quite a hefty package (including Rossi) for Miller, if it meant we could extend him and still have a bit of cash to deal with. 13+M in dead cap is just too crippling though.

If it were different, I really think Guerin would try to maximize Kaprizov's prime and Miller would be near the top of his list.

If I'm Billy Guerin, I'd push for more playoff-based conditions on that last pick (ie, starts at a 3rd, becomes a 2nd with a conference final appearance and a 1st with a Cup final appearance) because this is an "all in" type of move. You basically get a chance to replace Fiala's production on the wing for cheap (just get the full retention down to $2.625M honestly), and all it costs is a prospect, a 1st, and that conditional 3rd. Sure, it can turn into a 1st, but I don't think any Wild fans would be complaining about that 1st if it meant a run to the Cup Final.

Just curious on what the plan moving forward is. Kaprizov is in his prime right now, but the buyout penalties are preventing the Wild from adding any significant players. Are they going to still contend or rebuild? Just curious what the next 5 years look like for the Wild

Yeah it's a very valid question. It seems like the plan is to try and tread water over the next 3 years while being reasonably competitive - i.e. mushy middle, vying for WC spot. There is a 1 year window after these 3 year buyouts where it's Kaprizov's last year under contract and we theoretically should have a ton of money along with some solid prospects being more mature - Boldy, Rossi, Addison, Faber, Yurov, Wallstedt, etc.

Kinda shaping up like that could be an all-in year.

Obviously that's far out to project and gets dicey with Kaprizov being a pending UFA. Will he want to stick around if we spend the next 3 years being mediocre?

Lots of questions, but it's frustrating being handcuffed during our franchise players prime - especially since we've never really had a stud player besides Gaborik. The buyouts are what they are, so not expecting sympathy from any other fanbases -it's just the timing of everything that's tough.

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised Guerin hasn't elaborated further on being stuck in sort of this rock and a hard place. I guess the team will see how well they perform this upcoming season, and hey, there's no reason why they can't be a lock for the playoffs, but over a 3 year window, it will be interesting to see how Kaprizov reacts should the realization sink in that he has to spend a significant chunk of his contract on a team with a harsh ceiling like the Wild are in. Yeah, the Wild have a strong prospect system, but that's partially out of cap necessity in needing to move out high impact players for future assets. With a future core of Boldy, Ohgren, Yurov, Khusnutdinov, Beckman, Lambos, Hunt, O'Rourke, Faber, and Addison, I guess you can ask the question, do the Wild NEED Kaprizov to be a contender? If not, maybe they should explore the possibility of trading him, and getting EVEN MORE future assets