Modifié 1 sept. 2022 à 9 h 26
Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
He gaves like 4 trade comps and I responded with saying how they arent equal
For example, Giroux trade was very far off because a late 1st and 23 year old with 14 points in 42 games was not the same as a top 10, top 40 and top 70 pick. Same with how for Hagel, the two fourths evened out the players so it was basically two late first rounders for a very solid middle 6 player who is still getting better and has term on a very cheap deal. He hasnt responded to any points I made there. if he has stats to back them up, then I want to be proven wrong. he is just refusing to even show me his response. thats my problem.
I also never claimed that the Jets are moving him. I just said that this is what I found to be fair value. Scheifele was being discussed to get moved, and if he was actually being shopped, then nobody is safe.
The whole scheifele thing got blown out of proportion like all things in hockey media. The guy was never being shopped. Sure, Chevy was probably listening to offers, but not actively looking to move him. I know you never said jets were moving him and I never said you said that. I was just pointing out that you don’t need a data point or trade comp to justify why they wouldn’t make a deal like this. He simply has way too much of an impact on the game.
Sure the giroux and Hagel deals aren’t comparable to cat, but the cat deal isn’t even comparable to one like this Ehlers proposal. Cat does have more team control in theory, but he’s only got 1 year left until he’s an RFA. Teams know he’s cashing in on a huge ticket and that hurts his value on the trade market. Chicago took the deal they wanted, doesn’t mean it was a good deal. Chevy is known for one thing, and that’s patience. He waits until he absolutely has to move someone and typically makes out very well. He’s only won trades in which he’s been backed into a corner. Although we need to see how the PLD situation plays out to gauge that one.
All in all, the trade just doesn’t make sense for the jets. They’re downgrading at wing in order to pickup a prospect that isn’t anything special. along with a 1st that’s likely #24-30.