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Créé par: Irish

Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 16 août 2022

Publié: 24 août 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

reading the tea leaves from OilersNow conversations...
Kane as a rental makes the Oilers a favourite but adding Chychrun as well makes them a contender for a few more years. I'm a Broberg fan but the window is shrinking for the Draisaitl and McDavid years and the time to win is now. Trading a 3rd with Barrie is a necessary evil to move his salary but getting a decent RD prospect back in Chase Priskie softens the blow.
This roster is built to compete with the contenders. Additional moves may be necessary in 2023 to resign Bouchard, Skinner and few bottom six forwards but with just over $12M in cap space in 2023 that shouldn't be a huge deal, unless P.Kane wants to resign ;)
I think Desharnais is going to surprise a lot of people. The 6'7" RHD patterns his game after his childhood idol Chara. He needs to get stronger but he could be a poor man's Chara eventually.
I hate to buy out Derek Ryan but Gagner comes in cheaper and has a better two way game.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
McLeod, Ryan		1	950 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kessel, Phil		1	1 250 000 $
Gagner, Sam		1	850 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Patrick, Kane		1	2 625 000 $

Transactions

EDM

1. Kane, Patrick ($2,625,000)

CHI trades Kane to ARI,
ARI retains 50% of Kane's salary
ARI trades Kane to EDM

CHI

Puljujärvi, Jesse
Samorukov, Dmitri
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

EDM

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Broberg, Philip
Tullio, Tyler
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)

EDM

Priskie, Chase

Détails additionnels:

edited trade from Ryan Johnson to Chase Priskie

BUF

Barrie, Tyson
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Derek Ryan: 416 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	82 500 000 $	82 230 167 $	896 000 $	850 000 $	269 833 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Patrick, Kane 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
Kane, Evander 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 4	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Kessel, Phil 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Janmark, Mattias 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 7	Yamamoto, Kailer 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	McLeod, Ryan 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA - 1	Gagner, Sam 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 5
Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 1	Skinner, Stuart 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Desharnais, Vincent 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Smith, Mike 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
McDavid, C.		Draisaitl, L.		Patrick, K.
	Chychrun, J.		Bouchard, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Kane, E.		Nugent-Hopkins, R.		Hyman, Z.
	Nurse, D.		Ceci, C.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Nugent-Hopkins, R.	Hyman, Z.
	Nurse, D.	Ceci, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	McLeod, R.	Yamamoto, K.
	Kulak, B.	Desharnais, V.

24 août 2022 à 12 h 43

CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.

24 août 2022 à 12 h 52

wojme

Rejoint: juin 2017

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Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie

KooKoo4Kaapo, Irish et sabres89 a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 12 h 55

Stevo989898

Rejoint: déc. 2021

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Quoting: CD282

Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.

I don't really think this is going all in...cupboards are full, just loading up on high end talent this year for draft picks that we can regain.

I like it all except the RD #3 which is where Foegele unfortunately comes in to play

Irish a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 13 h 7

KooKoo4Kaapo

Rejoint: août 2022

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Buffalo laughs

Irish et sabres89 a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 13 h 14

Irish

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hockeyman

Rejoint: mai 2016

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Quoting: CD282

Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.

He is actually. Stats don’t lie.
Unconditional waivers for the purpose of buyout.

24 août 2022 à 13 h 21

Irish

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hockeyman

Rejoint: mai 2016

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Quoting: wojme

Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie

Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 13 h 35

DangleCat

Rejoint: août 2017

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You just forget to include a few first in the Chych deal?

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24 août 2022 à 13 h 36

wojme

Rejoint: juin 2017

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Quoting: Irish

Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect

Or they keep their prospect and not have to worry about the uncertainty of the trade deadline? Confused as to why you think Buffalo makes this move

Shibbal18 et sabres89 a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 13 h 40

KooKoo4Kaapo

Rejoint: août 2022

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Quoting: Irish

Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect

So they move a good prospect for a possibility of moving fir a different one? Pass.

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24 août 2022 à 13 h 58

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Irish

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hockeyman

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Quoting: DangleCat

You just forget to include a few first in the Chych deal?

Broberg is an "A" prospect but a deal would probably require the 2nd rounder to be conditional that becomes a first if they make the final four, etc.

24 août 2022 à 14 h 16

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Shibbal18

Rejoint: janv. 2016

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Sabres arent interested. Sabres are guaranteed a 2nd if Johnson walks

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24 août 2022 à 14 h 42

#12

Irish

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hockeyman

Rejoint: mai 2016

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Sabres arent interested. Sabres are guaranteed a 2nd if Johnson walks

yeah wishful thinking. I've edited the trade to Chase Priskie

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 14 h 49

#13

CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Quoting: Irish

Broberg is an "A" prospect but a deal would probably require the 2nd rounder to be conditional that becomes a first if they make the final four, etc.

Holland already reportedly refused to include Broberg in any Chychrun discussions.

24 août 2022 à 14 h 50

#14

CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Quoting: Irish

He is actually. Stats don’t lie.

Which stats would those be?

Rels tell a different story: http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=r&p1=8478585&p2=8474040&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

24 août 2022 à 16 h 24

#15

a1979

Goodbye79

Rejoint: avr. 2022

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Quoting: CD282

Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.

Why would the Oilers not go all-in? Logical reason? McDavid and Draisaitl just went god-mode in the playoffs and proved they can make it to the conference finals. This team is a few solid pieces from winning a cup. Do you want McDavid and Draisaitl to walk in free-agency in a couple of years?

24 août 2022 à 16 h 55

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CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Quoting: a1979

That's exactly it. If you sell the future for one run this year, the likelihood of them leaving in 3 years goes up. It's pretty simple.

24 août 2022 à 17 h 53

#17

gretzkyghosts

Rejoint: avr. 2018

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Quoting: wojme

Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie

Quoting: KooKoo4Kaapo

Buffalo laughs

Quoting: Irish

Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect

While I would not want to give up Ryan Johnson, I would definitely do the deal with Priskie.

KooKoo4Kaapo et GMTD a aimé ceci.

24 août 2022 à 18 h 16

#18

a1979

Goodbye79

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Quoting: CD282

That's exactly it. If you sell the future for one run this year, the likelihood of them leaving in 3 years goes up. It's pretty simple.

I wouldn't categorize going all-in as a one-year event. Colorado has consistently gone all-in these past few seasons; Tampa much the same. It doesn't necessarily mean trading away every asset for one stab at the cup. The Oilers should be trading picks and prospects over these coming seasons to give themselves the best chance at winning the cup every season.

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ARI

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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

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