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What value does Myers have

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 22 août 2022
Publié: 22 août 2022
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Discussion with a Van fan on myers value

He thinks he has postive trade value.

I think He has negative unless Van retains a large in a trade.

What would you give up from your team for Myers?
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982 500 000 $47 904 167 $1 250 000 $2 000 000 $34 595 833 $
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 23
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i think he can get a mid pick if you retain half
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 37
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i think myers has slight negative value without retention, slight postive value with retention.

Hes a lot more moveable next year, with 1 year left and owed less than 6m
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 40
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He’s a 3 million dollar veteran dman, getting paid double, not overly tradeable until deadline in another year as a rental, unless substantial retention. To get any value sooner going to have to take a large cap dump back,
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 43
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right now you could probably get a 3rd retaining 25%. He'd be much easier to move next season once his 5 million dollar signing bonus is paid
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: NoWah49
i think he can get a mid pick if you retain half


Quoting: BenningTruther
i think myers has slight negative value without retention, slight postive value with retention.

Hes a lot more moveable next year, with 1 year left and owed less than 6m


Quoting: Birtle34
He’s a 3 million dollar veteran dman, getting paid double, not overly tradeable until deadline in another year as a rental, unless substantial retention. To get any value sooner going to have to take a large cap dump back,


I think these are all true. With two years left on his deal and most teams now having their rosters fairly set for the season, Myers holds much more value to VAN on the ice than he does on the trade market. The team doesn't have a proper replacement for him at the moment, so shipping him out makes zero sense overall. If they want to create some more cap space then moving one of their many NHL forwards is a much better way to go.
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: NoWah49
i think he can get a mid pick if you retain half


Yeah like a 3rd or 4th but if not then you dump at least a 3rd
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 48
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But the problem is Vancouver wants a first for him which no one in their right mind would pay
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 49
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I think these are all true. With two years left on his deal and most teams now having their rosters fairly set for the season, Myers holds much more value to VAN on the ice than he does on the trade market. The team doesn't have a proper replacement for him at the moment, so shipping him out makes zero sense overall. If they want to create some more cap space then moving one of their many NHL forwards is a much better way to go.


agreed. van cannot trade myers now unless they get a top 4 dman back in another trade, which seems very unlikely at this point
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22 août 2022 à 18 h 51
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But the problem is Vancouver wants a first for him which no one in their right mind would pay


Half retention might get a 2nd or a 3rd from a contender so later picks. No chance a team giving up a first unless they are shipping a big cap dump back and that kind of defeats the purpose.
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22 août 2022 à 19 h 6
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Idk, everyone has hit on Myers value with their comments, ultimately Vancouver needs Myers, not a lot of dmen out there.
22 août 2022 à 19 h 32
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I expect a mid round pick like a 4th or 5th rounder with RS.
22 août 2022 à 19 h 32
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Thanks for the input kinda exactly where i thought he would be with out retention there just simply isnt a market for him to get anything in return
22 août 2022 à 20 h 4
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Quoting: NoWah49
i think he can get a mid pick if you retain half


Quoting: IconicHawk
Yeah like a 3rd or 4th but if not then you dump at least a 3rd


Maybe this was true two months ago but Vancouver has long missed their chance to pull this off. They should have tried to make the Nasvhille-McDonagh deal (which would have gotten them a worse-but-maybe-has-upside Myers for half the price and term), or something similar. Now, half the teams in the league are within a league minimum contract of the cap. Several teams still have to convince a bad team to take a bad deal to get them cap compliant. No teams are struggling to get to the cap, and pretty much everyone has their rosters set. Not to mention Myers is a pretty polarizing player, to put it lightly. Considering Vancouver is already probably down a defenseman in Poolman, having Myers as a warm body is better than trying to trade him at this point, if such a trade is going to cost Vancouver significant assets.
22 août 2022 à 20 h 42
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If Gudbranson can get 4M X 4yrs with Columbus I think there's a chance that a team would pony up for the size and a veteran leadership Myers brings.
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23 août 2022 à 17 h 38
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Myers for Klingberg at the TDL.
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