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What the Chychrun trade will look like in 1-2 weeks

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Publié: 17 août 2022 à 14 h 21
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
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Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 575 269 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Zaitsev, NikitaSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-4 475 806 $011---0000--
Brännström, ErikSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Formenton, AlexSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial20 363 291 $22437331513
Variation99 463 $20220-1
Final20 462 754 $ (↑)24 (↑)4375 (↑)5 (↑)1512 (↓)000

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Zaitsev, NikitaSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-4 475 806 $011---0000--
Brännström, ErikSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Formenton, AlexSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 575 269 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial7 940 119 $1943663513
Variation-99 463 $-20-2-201
Final7 840 656 $ (↓)17 (↓)4364 (↓)1 (↓)514 (↑)000
17 août 2022 à 14 h 32
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The rumored ask from Arizona is two 1sts, and a "top prospect" for Chychrun and dumping Zaitsev's contract.

-Both 1st round picks have protection.
-Brannstrom borders on throw in status. But he might be a solid reclamation project for Arizona, who will be able to give him top pairing minutes.
-The 4th round pick is for Brannstrom, although it is better for both teams if they don't admit that. The Senators can present it as if they got good value from the Stone trade, since they parlayed the return into Chychrun - the Coyotes can present Brannstrom as a top prospect, since two or so years ago he was a big name prospect in the NHL.
-Brannstrom signs a 1-2 year contract at about 1.5M.
-Formenton is the "top prospect" Arizona gets. They want Greig, Pinto, or Thomson, Ottawa negotiates down to Formenton. Formenton signs a 2 year 2.XXM contract extension with Arizona. If the Hockey Canada stuff is an issue, then the piece will be different.
-If Formenton is going to be suspended for the season, maybe keep him in the trade but also include a 2nd round pick as compensation to Arizona for him being suspended. Arizona probably doesn't care that much if he misses the season.
-Arizona takes Zaitsev, because the Senators are a budget team. Zaitsev only makes 2.5M this year against a 4.5M cap hit, which is good for Arizona. As bad as Zaitsev is, they need someone who can eat up top minutes in the NHL. Which Zaitsev has done on the rebuilding Senators. They don't care if he is bad, because they are tanking anyways. Zaitsev eating up top minutes will protect their young defenseman from having their development destroyed with tough assignments on a bad team.

This will be the middle ground both teams agree to. Arizona isn't getting Pinto, Greig, etc. They aren't getting the Seth Jones return, but this is pretty damn close. Chychrun is not going to accept being shopped for years. Arizona knows they have leverage to extort a big return from Ottawa since Chychrun is underpaid (in real dollars), and no one else can take Zaitsev without something like a 1st round pick being attached to him. They also likely know that if Ottawa pivots away from Chychrun and goes with a plan B, no one is offering up anything close to two 1st round picks in a package deal for Chychrun.

Not to mention, Ottawa is not proven. Those two 1st round picks could very well end up as top 10 picks. The protection would likely be top 5. So Arizona could end up with picks in that 6th-15th type range, which will net them much better prospects than if they unload Chychrun to a proven playoff team.

I think training camp will be the deadline. Chychrun won't want to go into training camp with his future uncertain, and Arizona gains nothing by dragging this out. In the next 2.5 years, it is unlikely that a situation as advantageous as this one materializes for Arizona. Ottawa is in a very unique spot that Arizona can capitalize on. If they push for too much, and Ottawa backs off, they aren't getting a package as good as what Ottawa can give from any other team.
17 août 2022 à 15 h 36
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Actually the ask for Chychrun was a good young roster player, a top prospect and 2 firsts. IOW the equivalent of 4 firsts.

Speculation now is since that was a while ago and nobody met their ask they might accept the equivalent of 3 firsts now. Arizona will ask for Sanderson and 2 firsts but they might settle for Pinto and 2 firsts.

Taking on Zaitsev's contract would cost extra, probably a 2nd.
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17 août 2022 à 16 h 2
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Dude, Formenton is radioactive right now. Zaitsev is a dump. Brannstrom is quickly careening toward bust status. You're still missing a third piece they'd want.
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17 août 2022 à 20 h 4
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Both club says YES.
Excellent offer,the Best one on table.
17 août 2022 à 21 h 49
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Both club says YES.
Excellent offer,the Best one on table.


Excellent for the Sens sure but absolutely terrible for the Coyotes.

A cap dump (Zaitsev), a player nobody wants to touch (Formenton) and a defenseman who as someone said above "is quickly careening towards bust status" (Brannstrom) and a couple firsts isn't even close! It'd cost a couple firsts (or close) just to take on those 3 players meaning Ottawa would be getting Chychrun for nothing.
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17 août 2022 à 23 h 53
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Excellent for the Sens sure but absolutely terrible for the Coyotes.

A cap dump (Zaitsev), a player nobody wants to touch (Formenton) and a defenseman who as someone said above "is quickly careening towards bust status" (Brannstrom) and a couple firsts isn't even close! It'd cost a couple firsts (or close) just to take on those 3 players meaning Ottawa would be getting Chychrun for nothing.


Terrible analyse.

Sure Phoenix are worry about the the cap dump haha
Phoenix have 20-30 millions under the cap and more after the year. Welcome Zaitsev !

+ one young défensement.

Formenton great futur if you forget hysterical situation.
And more, nothing say he his guilty.

2 X 1st pick around 10-16. For now, nothing prouve the club do the playoff. HEAVY offer just the pick.

So, hysterical imagination push to analyse wrong.

Fact : He is the Best offer on the table.
Way too much for Chychrun by the way...
18 août 2022 à 2 h 21
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Actually the ask for Chychrun was a good young roster player, a top prospect and 2 firsts. IOW the equivalent of 4 firsts.

Speculation now is since that was a while ago and nobody met their ask they might accept the equivalent of 3 firsts now. Arizona will ask for Sanderson and 2 firsts but they might settle for Pinto and 2 firsts.

Taking on Zaitsev's contract would cost extra, probably a 2nd.


Sanderson and two firsts? My God, I hope they can never move him if that's what they truly would want.
18 août 2022 à 12 h 58
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Sanderson and two firsts? My God, I hope they can never move him if that's what they truly would want.


Never ever Ottawa put Sanderson in the trade of Chychrun.

Come on.
18 août 2022 à 14 h 31
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Never ever Ottawa put Sanderson in the trade of Chychrun.

Come on.


That's what I'm saying.
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18 août 2022 à 14 h 38
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