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If Calgary locks up Weegar and we are unable to trade for a Top 4 Defenceman

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2022
Publié: 5 août 2022
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Just an idea I had.


I'm not totally against acquiring Myers if it means sending Zaitsev the other way.


Zaitsev has the lower cap hit, but Myers is the better defenceman.
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  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
If Myers plays more than 22 minutes per game for Ottawa throughout the 2022-2023 season ...


Ottawa receives the lower of Vancouver's two 4th round picks for 2023



If Myers plays less than 22 minutes per game for Ottawa throughout the 2022-2023 season ...


Ottawa receives the higher of Vancouver's two 4th round picks for 2023
VAN
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
Détails additionnels:
What would the Canucks get in this trade besides Zaitsev?


Cap relief for the next two seasons
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 3
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I understand the benefit for Vancouver but I think I’d rather just keep Myers
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I understand the benefit for Vancouver but I think I’d rather just keep Myers


That's fine.
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 5
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I think the Canucks do this deal but they also need RHD very badly so Im not sure if they would give up the better d-man.
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 8
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I think the Canucks do this deal but they also need RHD very badly so Im not sure if they would give up the better d-man.


We in Ottawa need RHD very badly too frown
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 9
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Canucks would probably need a better pick than they are giving up. Myers is serviceable, Zaitsev not really
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Zaitsev still makes 4.5 right? I don't think saving 1.5M to get a significantly worse defenseman makes sense for Van.

And I don't understand why Van would get rid of him in the first place. They need top 4 RHDs and Myers is that, albeit, at too high of a cap hit but RHDs get paid in this league.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 11
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Canucks would probably need a better pick than they are giving up. Myers is serviceable, Zaitsev not really


Cap space is king in this league.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 12
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 15
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Zaitsev still makes 4.5 right? I don't think saving 1.5M to get a significantly worse defenseman makes sense for Van.

And I don't understand why Van would get rid of him in the first place. They need top 4 RHDs and Myers is that, albeit, at too high of a cap hit but RHDs get paid in this league.


You would get rid of Myers for exactly that.

Cap space.



And you would also get rid of Myers because he's nothing more than a scapegoated whipping boy in Vancouver.

And he is not a Top 4 RHD, so stop kidding yourself.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 17
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To do what exactly?
5 août 2022 à 19 h 18
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Cap space is king in this league.


Saving only 1.5M but getting significantly worse at our weakest position isn’t really worth it imo
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Being better than Zaitsev is not a high enough bar to justify paying someone Zaitsev's money, let alone an added 1.5mil. The reason you have to move Zaitsev is the cap crunch problem next season. They need that money off the books, going from 4.5 to 6mil for a guy you don't want in your top 6 regularly is insane.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 21
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Saving only 1.5M but getting significantly worse at our weakest position isn’t really worth it imo


To each his own.

But when you're out of options 1 week before opening night, we'll be here to help awesome face
5 août 2022 à 19 h 21
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To do what exactly?


Trade one of his RDs

Severson, Hamilton, Marino, Hughes, Nemec, Mukhamadullin, Walsh, Casey

Can’t play them all
5 août 2022 à 19 h 22
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You would get rid of Myers for exactly that.

Cap space.



And you would also get rid of Myers because he's nothing more than a scapegoated whipping boy in Vancouver.

And he is not a Top 4 RHD, so stop kidding yourself.


Interesting that you want him so badly yet you think he's an overpaid piece of garbage. Myers is 100% a top 4 Defenseman in this league. The problem in Van is that he's essentially our only RHD. So he's playing minutes against teams top lines. He shouldn't be. I would take Myers in a #4 role at 4.5M everyday.

Zaitsev is Erik Gudbranson light. We don't need that again. Good luck with that one Columbus.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 23
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Being better than Zaitsev is not a high enough bar to justify paying someone Zaitsev's money, let alone an added 1.5mil. The reason you have to move Zaitsev is the cap crunch problem next season. They need that money off the books, going from 4.5 to 6mil for a guy you don't want in your top 6 regularly is insane.


So, we should just spend a bunch of picks to dump Zaitsev?

And then ride the season out and see where it goes?

Is that the plan?
5 août 2022 à 19 h 23
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Though the canucks save a little bit of cap space, I don’t think it’s worth sacrificing more of our already thin RHD
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Trade one of his RDs

Severson, Hamilton, Marino, Hughes, Nemec, Mukhamadullin, Walsh, Casey

Can’t play them all


We'll give you Zaitsev and a conditional pick for Marino.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 27
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Cap space is king in this league.


You're right. So why would the Canucks waste 4.5mil of it on a pylon
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5 août 2022 à 19 h 28
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Interesting that you want him so badly yet you think he's an overpaid piece of garbage. Myers is 100% a top 4 Defenseman in this league. The problem in Van is that he's essentially our only RHD. So he's playing minutes against teams top lines. He shouldn't be. I would take Myers in a #4 role at 4.5M everyday.

Zaitsev is Erik Gudbranson light. We don't need that again. Good luck with that one Columbus.


I never said he was an overpaid piece of garbage.

I said he's a scapegoat and a whipping boy.

Two different things.

And I only want to acquire him for Zaitsev if we're out of options.



Also, what is your plan to get under the cap before opening night?
5 août 2022 à 19 h 29
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Though the canucks save a little bit of cap space, I don’t think it’s worth sacrificing more of our already thin RHD


To each his own.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 30
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You're right. So why would the Canucks waste 4.5mil of it on a pylon


To save 1.5 million in cap space over the next two years by getting rid of someone who might also be a pylon?
5 août 2022 à 19 h 32
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I never said he was an overpaid piece of garbage.

I said he's a scapegoat and a whipping boy.

Two different things.

And I only want to acquire him for Zaitsev if we're out of options.



Also, what is your plan to get under the cap before opening night?


The Canucks are already cap compliant 23 man roster with $748,000 in cap space.
5 août 2022 à 19 h 33
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No plan needed
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Quoting: The_Rocket
I understand the benefit for Vancouver but I think I’d rather just keep Myers


I wouldn't blame them there.
 
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