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Cost of moving Bailey

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Équipe: 2022-23 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2022
Publié: 4 août 2022
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    4 août 2022 à 18 h 58
    #26
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    I mean there absolutely is a debate if Connor brown is worth a second and you can move McDonough’s four year deal for free.


    I think the differences you see is contenders value these players different than teams eating cap dumps. I don’t think Bailey is a bad player, the same way I don’t think JVR is, but bottom feeders have set prices on their cap space that they all seem to adhere to. Like I said, I think there’s a debate to be had if moving Bailey and two 2nds for kadri is a good idea, but you’re not likely to find a better offer in august
    4 août 2022 à 18 h 59
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Bailey isn't good and he's still miles better than Nick Leddy, that just shows how bad Nick Leddy is.


    Islanders Fans: I hate Josh Bailey

    *Nazim Kadri has entered the chat*

    Islanders Fan: Ok fine. I can live with Josh Bailey for two years.
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    4 août 2022 à 18 h 59
    #28
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Bailey, 3rd, Bellows. You retain 2.5 on Bailey and flip him to another team for a 3rd. You get 2 3rds and Bellows to retain 2.5 for 2 years.


    Who is going to pay a 3rd for 2 years of Justin Bailey at 2.5 million.

    Answer: nobody
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 0
    #29
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    Quoting: Yotes269
    I think the differences you see is contenders value these players different than teams eating cap dumps. I don’t think Bailey is a bad player, the same way I don’t think JVR is, but bottom feeders have set prices on their cap space that they all seem to adhere to. Like I said, I think there’s a debate to be had if moving Bailey and two 2nds for kadri is a good idea, but you’re not likely to find a better offer in august


    I think it’s pretty likely that the shortage of talent exceeds the shortage of cap space
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 0
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    Quoting: Db1899
    oh yeah that must mean he's a good player. Yzerman just gave Chiarot 4.75 mill x 4 - good GM's make terrible moves too.
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    Chairot is a good player. Doesn't put up many points but can play solid defense. Hence it cost Florida 1st to get him at the TD.
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 1
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    Who is going to pay a 3rd for 2 years of Justin Bailey at 2.5 million.

    Answer: nobody


    Josh Bailey and a number of teams looking for a 45-50 point middle 6 guy.
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 1
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    Who is going to pay a 3rd for 2 years of Justin Bailey at 2.5 million.

    Answer: nobody


    Yeah I wouldn’t want JUSTIN BAILEY at that price either
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 1
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Josh Bailey and a number of teams looking for a 45-50 point middle 6 guy.


    He’s talking about Justin not Josh lol
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 2
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    He’s talking about Justin not Josh lol


    That was most likely just an auto correct, but I wouldn’t want Justin Bailey either.
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 2
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    Who is going to pay a 3rd for 2 years of Justin Bailey at 2.5 million.

    Answer: nobody


    Quoting: Warrior24
    Josh Bailey and a number of teams looking for a 45-50 point middle 6 guy.


    Josh has way better numbers than Justin does

    https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=89753

    https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=149191
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 3
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    That was most likely just an auto correct, but I wouldn’t want Justin Bailey either.


    No he was clearly talking about former Vancouver Canuck Justin Bailey.

    No wonder Canucks fans hate Josh!!!
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 5
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    I think it’s pretty likely that the shortage of talent exceeds the shortage of cap space


    Kessel is still out there and posted comparable numbers, hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the isles replaced Bailey with him
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 6
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    Quoting: Yotes269
    Kessel is still out there and posted comparable numbers, hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the isles replaced Bailey with him


    I actually could c him in NY with Kadri lol. Maybe Kadri took a 3 year fifteen million dollar deal to play with Phil the Thrill lol
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 6
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    Quoting: Old_Snowman
    Chairot is a good player. Doesn't put up many points but can play solid defense. Hence it cost Florida 1st to get him at the TD.


    Chiarot is a replacement level defenseman. He has a good reputation, just like Ristolainen did before he got traded to Philly. They are both terrible defenseman.

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    4 août 2022 à 19 h 7
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    Quoting: Yotes269
    Kessel is still out there and posted comparable numbers, hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the isles replaced Bailey with him


    I wouldn’t be shocked if the isles showed up to camp with Kessel. Kind of weird there hasn’t been much Sonny Milano to NY talk. You would think Lou would try to find his own version of Michael Bunting. I’m not saying Milano is as good but he’s an LI kid and an analytics darling.
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 8
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    Chiarot is a replacement level defenseman. He has a good reputation, just like Ristolainen did before he got traded to Philly. They are both terrible defenseman.

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    Calling Chiarot replacement level is offensive to replacement level players. I’d rather give a four year deal to the ****ty Sebastian Aho.
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    Quoting: Yotes269
    Kessel is still out there and posted comparable numbers, hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the isles replaced Bailey with him


    Assuming Kadri is signed and Bailey is traded, that leaves Lee/Barzal/Wahlstrom/Nelson/Kadri/Beauvillier/Parise/Pageau/Palmieri as the top 9. None of those players are coming out of the lineup for Kessel
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    4 août 2022 à 19 h 9
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Chiarot is a replacement level defenseman. He has a good reputation, just like Ristolainen did before he got traded to Philly. They are both terrible defenseman.

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    Risto can't play Defense. Chariot can. Watch some games and put the little bar graphs down.
    4 août 2022 à 19 h 13
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    Quoting: Old_Snowman
    Risto can't play Defense. Chariot can. Watch some games and put the little bar graphs down.


    Chiarot constantly gets walked, hes terrible defensively., he has One of the worst contracts in the NHL
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    Quoting: Old_Snowman
    Risto can't play Defense. Chariot can. Watch some games and put the little bar graphs down.


    Quoting: Db1899
    Chiarot constantly gets walked, hes terrible defensively., he has One of the worst contracts in the NHL


    I agree that the bar graphs aren’t perfect but Chiarot is ****ing terrible.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Andrew Ladd cost two seconds to dump. **** off.
    If you are going to troll put some effort into it.


    Ladd cost 2 seconds, yes, but the cap was not hurting as badly as it is now. Patrik Nemeth cost 2 seconds and his contract is less money. Original post is pretty fair, teams with cap space have all the leverage. Over half the teams in the league are over or at the cap. Cap dumping Bailey to sign Kadri will cost at least 2 seconds, may even be a first.
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    Quoting: Superkguy
    Ladd cost 2 seconds, yes, but the cap was not hurting as badly as it is now. Patrik Nemeth cost 2 seconds and his contract is less money. Original post is pretty fair, teams with cap space have all the leverage. Over half the teams in the league are over or at the cap. Cap dumping Bailey to sign Kadri will cost at least 2 seconds, may even be a first.


    I don’t think Lou is even willing to do that so I doubt it
    4 août 2022 à 20 h 30
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    If that’s the price, Chicago says, excuse me, I’ll take Bailey and second
    4 août 2022 à 22 h 51
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    I don’t want Kadri


    Your GM does
    Who cares what you want
    4 août 2022 à 23 h 10
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    Your GM does
    Who cares what you want


    Quoting: Erkadurk347
    If that’s the price, Chicago says, excuse me, I’ll take Bailey and second


    Lmao I like it
     
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