Avs help the Isles get Kadri

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Créé par: Anus_McLeod

Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York

Date de création initiale: 1 août 2022

Publié: 1 août 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The Beauvillier trade is based on the Bjorkstrand return for Columbus. Since the picks here aren't in 2023 here and also probably won't be as high, this is clearly a worse return for the Isles. However, Bjorkstrand has proven to be the better player so far in their respective careers. Thus, I feel like it's in the neighborhood under current market conditions.

I added Kaut for Salo in the trade as well. I think this helps both teams, as Salo fills a need in the Avs prospect pool and Kaut can provide an affordable option for the Isles going forward as their forwards age and begin to roll off (starting with Bailey). I also think Kaut would fit in well with the Isles and not so much in Colorado.

Tbh, I hate the Kadri signing for the Isles. They double down on aging forwards, and I'm still not even sure they're a Cup contender. However, it sure looks like it may happen, so I'm running with it.

For Colorado, I don't like it as much as if they were to sign Kadri, but they get a couple players that could fit their team and system at an affordable price.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Dobson, Noah		3	4 500 000 $
Romanov, Alexander		3	2 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kadri, Nazem		6	7 000 000 $

Transactions

NYI

Kaut, Martin
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)

COL

Rachats de contrats

Rick DiPietro: 0 $

Enfoui

Richard Pánik: 250 000 $ (1 375 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	82 028 296 $	245 796 $	1 712 500 $	471 704 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Lee, Anders 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 4	Barzal, Mathew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Palmieri, Kyle 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 3
Nelson, Brock 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Kadri, Nazem 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C UFA - 7	Wahlstrom, Oliver 894 167 $894 167 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 1
Bailey, Josh 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG, C UFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Kaut, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) AD RFA - 1
Johnston, Ross 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG UFA - 4	Cizikas, Casey 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Clutterbuck, Cal 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pelech, Adam 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 7	Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $6 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8	Sorokin, Ilya 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Romanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG RFA - 3	Dobson, Noah 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD RFA - 3	Varlamov, Semyon 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian 825 000 $825 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Martin, Matt 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Parise, Zach 750 000 $750 000 $ (750 000 $$750K) AG UFA - 1

1 août 2022 à 10 h 54

#26

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

It was more that Aho is not exempt and would potentially get claimed if not on the roster. That and cap crunch. But yeah, we can leave the Salo/Kaut part out.

I will say that Kaut is an NHL regular if given the shot. His game is perfect for the Isles.

I think the real issue with Bjorkstrand is that if we use him as a comparison he has no value. Like I’ll mention his name in a trade involving Kerfoot for a 2nd but that’s more about the fact I don’t think Kerfoot is worth a second anyway.

I don’t think Lou is willing to sell Beau or Bailey for pennies on the dollar. I think we have to think about the fact that this trade could already be agreed upon. We also have to think about the fact both guys names were discussed at the deadline so maybe there is established interest which will impact discussions.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 56

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Quoting: Db1899

Kaut is going to be 23 in October and he's never been PPG in the AHL. He'll fit the isles in terms of being another forward prospect who can't be a full time player.

Big Dal Colle vibes imo. I think he should be in the league but for whatever reason he isn’t rn. I can see the same **** happening with Kuat.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 57

#28

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Quoting: Isles5513

I don’t view Kuat as much more than a throw in rn. It’s not about the player as much as it is about the fact I haven’t seen him play recently. When you are dealing with a guy who hasn’t played much entering the last year of his ELC you have to understand that his value isn’t high. Kuat hasn’t even been exceptional at the AHL level.

Kaut is mostly a throw in, but you gotta account for how Colorado ran it's AHL affiliate. They really don't give their prospects pp1 time, which affects things a lot.

Kaut was one of their best players. He kills penalties, fights, etc. He's better than the raw numbers indicate. He's not a fit for the Avs fast transition style though.

I never thought Salo was a throw in. He has value. Under the circumstance where everyone knows Lou is clearing cap for Kadri, I have to think the situation is similar to Bjorkstrand. I tried to adjust accordingly based on a few factors, but obviously it didn't work. The trade was designed to be a steal for Colorado. I may have gone too far though.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 58

#29

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

You are fine dude. I think the real issue here is that even tho Lou sucks at his job. There r clearly GM’s even dumber than he is!!!

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1 août 2022 à 11 h 0

#30

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I do wonder if the Bjorkstrand was shopped around the league or if Columbus just called Seattle and that’s it. Even with their cap situation I got to think someone like Anaheim would’ve been willing to move a second for him. If they weren’t then I would be stunned.

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1 août 2022 à 11 h 3

#31

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Btw this is what Strickland just tweeted about the isles. Seriously I think if bailey and beau r being moved then it might already be done. Maybe Lou makes another big swing idk. Because if he was in on Tkachuk AND Kadri then Bailey, Beau and Varly r all out.

https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/1554103203184132096?s=10&t=vWY6c_ncDv4OD9k8eK9NdQ

1 août 2022 à 11 h 27

#32

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Quoting: Isles5513

Maybe they would have just been heading to Calgary in such an instance.

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1 août 2022 à 11 h 39

#33

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Quoting: Isles5513

Some really dumb GMs out there, Jarmo included, there had to have been better options than giving Bjorkstrand away for pretty much nothing.

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1 août 2022 à 11 h 39

#34

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This is too slanted in the Avs favor imo.

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1 août 2022 à 11 h 41

#35

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How many trades have to go down in the NHL for people to understand theres no such thing as precedents.

Every team has their own needs and wants and are in different phases of contention/rebuilding/retooling etc.

Bjorkstrand trade is completely and utterly irrelevant.

1 août 2022 à 11 h 42

#36

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Some really dumb GMs out there, Jarmo included, there had to have been better options than giving Bjorkstrand away for pretty much nothing.

And signing JG to that contract. Dude is a horrible GM

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