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Créé par: OldNYIfan

Équipe: 2022-23 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 21 juill. 2022

Publié: 21 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

This brilliant idea brought to you by Colorado fan and authority Richard88, one of CapFriendly's brighter lights. Stealth goalie prospect signing by me.

Now the entire current roster is preserved with no shenanigans. And any waivers-exempt prospect can be shuttled up and down no matter who might be on the IR list.

Note that there are some other interesting options for this type of acquisition -- players on minimum-like contracts whose teams might be happy to deal them, such as Keegan Kolesar and Zack MacEwen.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Bear, Ethan		1	1 925 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Lafontaine, Jack		1	750 000 $

Transactions

TBL

Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Acquiring Ethan Bear, who has demanded arbitration, allows the Avs to use the second buyout window to buy Philippe Myers out

CAR

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TBL)

Rachats de contrats

Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
Philippe Myers: -616 666 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	80 129 167 $	0 $	0 $	2 370 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Point, Brayden 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 8	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 5
Hagel, Brandon 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Cirelli, Anthony 4 800 000 $4 800 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Stamkos, Steven 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 2
Colton, Ross 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Paul, Nicholas 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 7	Namestnikov, Vladislav 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Maroon, Patrick 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Perry, Corey 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 1
		Barré-Boulet, Alex 758 333 $758 333 $ AD, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Cernak, Erik 2 950 000 $2 950 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 6
Sergachev, Mikhail 4 800 000 $4 800 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Bear, Ethan 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Elliott, Brian 900 000 $900 000 $ G UFA - 1
Cole, Ian 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Foote, Cal 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Fleury, Haydn 762 500 $762 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Bogosian, Zach 850 000 $850 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Seabrook, Brent 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2

21 juill. 2022 à 16 h 58

Not_Isles5513

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Idk if it’s worth buying out Myers just to sign Bear. Either way it seems like TBL is determined to go into the season with Myers.

21 juill. 2022 à 17 h 3

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Isles5513

Idk if it’s worth buying out Myers just to sign Bear. Either way it seems like TBL is determined to go into the season with Myers.

The purpose is to keep the roster intact without having to trade anyone. Right now they're $7.2 million over and moving Seabrook to the LTIR list only gets them $6.875 million.

21 juill. 2022 à 17 h 3

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Bear is probably gonna get at least 2.5. You’ve got the space tho

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21 juill. 2022 à 17 h 7

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It F***s TB cap wise next year when the extensions kick in

21 juill. 2022 à 17 h 18

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Quoting: Boltsradynasty

It F***s TB cap wise next year when the extensions kick in

Tampa is already over the cap next year; the only deal here expires in one season, so it doesn't make that situation any worse. The purpose of this post is to show that Tampa doesn't have to sell off assets both this off-season and in 2023, too. Right now, without this transaction, Tampa is $7.2 million over the cap and moving Seabrook's cap hit to the LTIR list only gets them $6.875 million of space.

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21 juill. 2022 à 17 h 24

Boltsradynasty

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Myers gives TB the cap bonus this year but a cap hit next so yes it does.

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 15

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Quoting: Boltsradynasty

Myers gives TB the cap bonus this year but a cap hit next so yes it does.

It does if pissing in the ocean makes a difference in the water level. Tampa has 12 players under contract for next season totaling $79.7 million in cap. You make it sound like $633,334 is significant in a situation in which Tampa has to fit 11 contracts into $3.8 million. In that context, the difference between $3.8 million and $3.1 million is a rounding error.

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 19

Boltsradynasty

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

So they give up a 2 for a slight upgrade in player maybe to be in a slightly worse situation and that's smart to you?

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 27

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Quoting: Boltsradynasty

So they give up a 2 for a slight upgrade in player maybe to be in a slightly worse situation and that's smart to you?

No, they give up a 2 in order not to trade Alex Killorn. THAT's smart to me.

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 29

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

No, they give up a 2 in order not to trade Alex Killorn. THAT's smart to me.

There not trading Killorn when Bogo and Cirelli come back they send either Myers or Fluery down all good. If they don't pass through waivers 👍

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 39

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Quoting: Boltsradynasty

There not trading Killorn when Bogo and Cirelli come back they send either Myers or Fluery down all good. If they don't pass through waivers 👍

Well, that's certainly a possible strategy, and the only obvious strategy right now, and exactly the strategy to which I was offering an alternative.

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 41

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Well, that's certainly a possible strategy, and the only obvious strategy right now, and exactly the strategy to which I was offering an alternative.

Just don't nothing personal think it's a good alternative.

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21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 50

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tea

i dunno

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This is kind of a moot point, cause I'm pretty sure the 2nd buyout window is limited to players with an AAV higher than league average, which is 4M afaik, meaning he's not eligible to be bought out. Either way, it's kind of a waste, isn't it?

21 juill. 2022 à 18 h 58

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Quoting: tea

I think that having to break up the team that went to the Stanley Cup finals and/or trading Alex Killorn would be a bigger waste. A much, much bigger waste. As I recall, Tampa did just fine last season and all the way through the playoffs without Philippe Myers, and I think that they could probably replicate the same results without him again. The alternative is to risk putting Fleury on waivers, which, again, some might see as a perfectly acceptable risk.

21 juill. 2022 à 19 h 9

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Quoting: tea

This is kind of a moot point, cause I'm pretty sure the 2nd buyout window is limited to players with an AAV higher than league average, which is 4M afaik, meaning he's not eligible to be bought out.

I looked at it again, and not only are you right, but there's a second condition that also has to be met: the player has to have been on the team as of the prior trade deadline. Which, of course, doesn't apply to Myers.

Thanks for the education!

P.S. That's why @Richard88's original formulation involved Erik Johnson, who meets both requirements.

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21 juill. 2022 à 20 h 24

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tea

i dunno

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

But you just can't buy him out. It's not allowed

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