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Thoughts on the Trade

Créé par: JBrger18
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2022
Publié: 18 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 150 000 $
32 500 000 $
22 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 225 000 $
Transactions
EDM
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. Hakanpää, Jani
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 514 333 $896 000 $2 200 000 $985 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2

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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 33
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I would, but would they...
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 37
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I don't see the fit for the Stars.

They signed Miller on the cheap, which gives them a very solid top 4, and outside in Lindell, a group that can produce offensively. Adding Barrie may give them a legit PP quarterback, but I believe they believe they have that in Heiskanen.

Feogele for Gurianov is a downgrade for the Stars at this stage, and the picks don't offset that.

Overall, I really don't see the fit.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 49
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Trade seems unlikely given the cap disparity, but it annoys me how good this team looks.

Ken Holland got 2 get out of jail free cards and gets Kane and kulak and below market value and now gets to put together a great roster?? Annoying
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 56
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Let's look at the cause and effect of trading Barrie right now. As it stands bouchard will get paid for his 5-5 play on a bridge deal I'm guessing around 3 million x 2 or 3 years. If bouchard works out on the pp what will that do to his next deal? 5-6 million? Shooting yourself in the foot moving forward when it's completely avoidable by holding onto the proven player for one more year.
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 1
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That's a big win for Edmonton, can't see Dallas doing this.
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 4
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Let's look at the cause and effect of trading Barrie right now. As it stands bouchard will get paid for his 5-5 play on a bridge deal I'm guessing around 3 million x 2 or 3 years. If bouchard works out on the pp what will that do to his next deal? 5-6 million? Shooting yourself in the foot moving forward when it's completely avoidable by holding onto the proven player for one more year.

The only way I trade Barrie is if Bouchard signs an extension first. His contract is up next July so he is eligible to sign an extension right now.

Bouchard scored 43 points last year with minimal PP time... he was 11th in the league among defensemen for scoring at 5v5. He's probably getting $5-6M on a long term extension as it is, let alone after a 60 point season.
18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 9
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The only way I trade Barrie is if Bouchard signs an extension first. His contract is up next July so he is eligible to sign an extension right now.

Bouchard scored 43 points last year with minimal PP time... he was 11th in the league among defensemen for scoring at 5v5. He's probably getting $5-6M on a long term extension as it is, let alone after a 60 point season.


Agreed, I would sign him to something at least 4 years long. The only reason in my mind to trade Barrie is for more cap space... I would like to keep him on the team, but if that were the case I would re-work the blueline to look like Nurse & Bouch, Kulak and Barrie, and Broberg & Ceci... I wouldn't want to see Barrie and Broberg paired up, which is why these pairs are layed out like that.
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 21
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The only way I trade Barrie is if Bouchard signs an extension first. His contract is up next July so he is eligible to sign an extension right now.

Bouchard scored 43 points last year with minimal PP time... he was 11th in the league among defensemen for scoring at 5v5. He's probably getting $5-6M on a long term extension as it is, let alone after a 60 point season.


In my opinion not much difference from a buyout just creating future headache for temporary relief. Creating a much much larger problem.
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 29
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In my opinion not much difference from a buyout just creating future headache for temporary relief. Creating a much much larger problem.

Quite right. But there is a way to eliminate that future headache entirely, as Bouchard is eligible to sign an extension today. Do that first, then do as you will with Barrie. That's all I ask!
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18 juill. 2022 à 14 h 23
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Quite right. But there is a way to eliminate that future headache entirely, as Bouchard is eligible to sign an extension today. Do that first, then do as you will with Barrie. That's all I ask!


I could see a wold in which bouchard gets moved and Barrie gets extended. Alot can change in a year.
18 juill. 2022 à 14 h 31
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I could see a wold in which bouchard gets moved and Barrie gets extended. Alot can change in a year.

I don't see it, even if I squint a lot. Just their age difference would preclude it. Barrie is going to be on the downswing of his career while Bouchard still won't be in his prime yet. Bouchard is already the better player.
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18 juill. 2022 à 15 h 22
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I don't see it, even if I squint a lot. Just their age difference would preclude it. Barrie is going to be on the downswing of his career while Bouchard still won't be in his prime yet. Bouchard is already the better player.


Idk I could see Barrie have another 5-6 years of quality play in him. His style of play usually doesn't age as fast or poorly as more rugged guys.
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