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Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2022
Publié: 6 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
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  1. Choix de 2022 ronde en 1e (OTT)
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Trying to figure out just what Ottawa would need to add to make this deal work. No way Montreal moves these 2 for just 7th OVA but I also don't see another big piece added from the Sens. I am thinking that it would have to be something like one of Brannstrom, Sokolov or Thomson and maybe a later pick.
OTT
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Dvorak, Christian
Détails additionnels:
Let's be clear right off the bat, I do not think this is a deal that works for either side just trying to get a feel for what the package should look like.
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6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 41
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lol, that would be a hilarious steal for montreal
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6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 43
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the problem with MTL trading dvorak is there's no one to fill in at 2C. evans cant do it, wright shouldnt do it just yet, drouin isnt a C, poehling cant do it, suzuki's the 1C, byron can't do it

but if thats what it takes to get 7OA im taking it and running. i do think 26 and/or 33 have to be involved
6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 43
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Ottawa does not need to add nothing if anything mtl adds... but regardless there is no room for dvorak in the sens line up
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6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 45
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Ottawa does not need to add nothing if anything mtl adds... but regardless there is no room for dvorak in the sens line up


They technically can add, they just need to add Murray or Zaitsev
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Quoting: StephL05
Ottawa does not need to add nothing if anything mtl adds... but regardless there is no room for dvorak in the sens line up


Many things:

1) Ottawa isn’t taking on 10 mill in cap
2) Ottawa isn’t using the 7th to dump a contract (not like they can sign a top free agent anyways)
3) I can’t see Ottawa thinking Anderson is the missing piece in the top 6 when they want an upgrade on Brown and Brown has had better stats
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6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 54
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What needs to be added is a winger who can score to play beside Stu or a Top 4 RHD. Neither of those players are of any interest to ottawa
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6 juill. 2022 à 14 h 10
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the problem with MTL trading dvorak is there's no one to fill in at 2C. evans cant do it, wright shouldnt do it just yet, drouin isnt a C, poehling cant do it, suzuki's the 1C, byron can't do it

but if thats what it takes to get 7OA im taking it and running. i do think 26 and/or 33 have to be involved


1. We have a reported offer of Anderson for 13th OVA
2. Dvorak is worth a 1st + prospect

I can see a deal being worked on for one of the two of these players for 7th where Montreal adds but for both players to be included I think Ottawa has to add and after going through this explanation I expect it would have to actually be something significant. The trade value of both Anderson and Dvorak combined would be like that of Lehkonen and Chiarot or Lehkonen and Toffoli combined. These are players who are young enough that they can be part of a rebuild and we have no reason to move either of. So unless we are getting great value for them I don't think they will be moved.
6 juill. 2022 à 16 h 41
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"what OTTAWA would need to ADD"??????
6 juill. 2022 à 16 h 49
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"what OTTAWA would need to ADD"??????


Yes, look at the returns for Lehkonen and Toffoli. We got basically 2 1sts + 2 2nds + a 5th, I don't think we could ask for that much back since we are getting 7th OVA (even though it is in a weak draft) but adding a 2nd or a top 15 protected 1st is not unreasonable to get two good roster players each worth a 1st min on their own.
6 juill. 2022 à 21 h 10
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Yes, look at the returns for Lehkonen and Toffoli. We got basically 2 1sts + 2 2nds + a 5th, I don't think we could ask for that much back since we are getting 7th OVA (even though it is in a weak draft) but adding a 2nd or a top 15 protected 1st is not unreasonable to get two good roster players each worth a 1st min on their own.


hey bud, where in the first rounds are the picks you got for Toffoli and Lehkonen? where is the Sens pick? you’re dreaming, pal
 
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