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Créé par: StephL05
Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2022
Publié: 6 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Norris, Joshua87 250 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu32 750 000 $
Formenton, Alex22 250 000 $
Bear, Ethan33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Giroux, Claude35 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
2.
OTT
  1. Konecny, Travis
PHI
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (OTT)
3.
OTT
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 2e (TBL)
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 4e (TBL)
4.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor (1 600 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 5e (BOS)
5.
OTT
BUF
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 3e (BOS)
  3. Choix de 2022 ronde en 5e (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
  • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
  • Colin White: 875 000 $
  • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
  • Connor Brown: 1 600 000 $ (44.44%)
Enfoui
  • Michael Del Zotto: 875 000 $ (2 000 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $71 927 381 $0 $4 025 000 $10 572 619 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Tkachuk, Brady
8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 6
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Norris, Joshua
7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Batherson, Drake
4 975 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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Konecny, Travis
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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Stützle, Tim
925 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Giroux, Claude
5 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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Formenton, Alex
2 250 000 $
AG
RFA
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Pinto, Shane
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Joseph, Mathieu
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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Kelly, Parker
762 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Kastelic, Mark
821 667 $
C
RFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Bear, Ethan
3 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Gustavsson, Filip
787 500 $
G
RFA - 1
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Holden, Nick
1 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Gambrell, Dylan
950 000 $
C
RFA - 1

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6 juill. 2022 à 7 h 45
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Forget Brannstrom, what would it take for the Canes to get Formenton.
6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 5
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Forget Brannstrom, what would it take for the Canes to get Formenton.


Necas
6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 10
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Probably costs more than a 3rd and a 5th to dump that Murray contract. 6.25m cap hit is one thing, but his salary the next 2 seasons is 7 million and 8 million. That's a lot of money to pay a goalie who can't seem to put it back together. May end up having to keep him or buy him out.
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6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 16
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Necas


Sens would have to add if that’s the Canes.
6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 25
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Quoting: Funksoljah
Probably costs more than a 3rd and a 5th to dump that Murray contract. 6.25m cap hit is one thing, but his salary the next 2 seasons is 7 million and 8 million. That's a lot of money to pay a goalie who can't seem to put it back together. May end up having to keep him or buy him out.


Yeah I do agree with that... just heard on the radio that the market for murray may not be as bad as we thought so I just traded him for as little as possible without having to give up assets.
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6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 27
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Quoting: evelutions2
Sens would have to add if that’s the Canes.


Formy is good I wouldn't add much at all... if that would be the case I'd just keep him
6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 28
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Yeah I do agree with that... just heard on the radio that the market for murray may not be as bad as we thought so I just traded him for as little as possible without having to give up assets.


I guess it will depend on what the goalie market looks like this summer and how desperate a team gets. Could be a very strange off-season this year with so many cap strapped teams and so few willing to take on salary.
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6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 36
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Pass for Philly I believe
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6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 55
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Pass for Philly I believe


That surprises me I though it may be an overpay. I've seen alot less for konecny
6 juill. 2022 à 9 h 44
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That surprises me I though it may be an overpay. I've seen alot less for konecny


I’ve seen more for him. Usually Sens/ Konecny type of deals involve the 23 first, Brannstrom, and one of Ostapchuk or Lodin… I guess it really depends on how you value certain prospects, nothing wrong with Roby but I like the other two better. Also seen interesting ones involving other teams with similar returns
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6 juill. 2022 à 10 h 39
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Forget Brannstrom, what would it take for the Canes to get Formenton.


Would you be willing to part with Pesce?
6 juill. 2022 à 11 h 30
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Would you be willing to part with Pesce?


You are crazy if you think the Canes are trading Pesce just to get Formenton, who isn’t even as good as Necas yet. I would expect for Pesce the starting piece is something along the lines of Tkachuk. And that is never happening so it’s a moot point.

For Formenton, I would offer up 2 quality prospects and a pick, with the prospects coming in about when Ottawa’s cup window starts to really open up. I would offer something along the lines of Honka, Gunler, and a 5th. A projected top 4 RHD and a projected top 6 RW, and a 5th. Do you think the Sens would consider that package.
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6 juill. 2022 à 11 h 35
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You are crazy if you think the Canes are trading Pesce just to get Formenton, who isn’t even as good as Necas yet. I would expect for Pesce the starting piece is something along the lines of Tkachuk. And that is never happening so it’s a moot point.

For Formenton, I would offer up 2 quality prospects and a pick, with the prospects coming in about when Ottawa’s cup window starts to really open up. I would offer something along the lines of Honka, Gunler, and a 5th. A projected top 4 RHD and a projected top 6 RW, and a 5th. Do you think the Sens would consider that package.

I didn't suggest pesce but if you think he has that kind of value to suggest tkachuk that's insane to me... ottawa is looking to take steps forward so they wouldnt be interested in a deal involving picks and prospects back.... wouldnt make sense for them
6 juill. 2022 à 12 h 3
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Nowhere near enough to move that Murray contract
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6 juill. 2022 à 12 h 19
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Nowhere near enough to move that Murray contract


You may be right but not so sure . Been hearing on the radio the market may not be as sour as we all thought on murray
6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 0
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You may be right but not so sure . Been hearing on the radio the market may not be as sour as we all thought on murray


I've heard, reports from Bruce that the sens are looking aggressively to move Murray in a package with their first
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6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 4
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I've heard, reports from Bruce that the sens are looking aggressively to move Murray in a package with their first


I think the only way that happens is if it's a bigger deal and ottawa gets the top 4 d or top 6 forward they are looking for at the same time
6 juill. 2022 à 16 h 47
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Sens would have to add if that’s the Canes.


then the Sens just keep Formenton lmao. he's not available. if you want him, you overpay
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6 juill. 2022 à 18 h 0
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I think the only way that happens is if it's a bigger deal and ottawa gets the top 4 d or top 6 forward they are looking for at the same time


If Ottawa is interested I would include olofsson at our end.

Victor Olofsson
And

2023 conditional 2nd, worst of the 3 we have

For

Murray
Ottawa's 2022 1st round pick.
11 juill. 2022 à 15 h 6
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You are crazy if you think the Canes are trading Pesce just to get Formenton, who isn’t even as good as Necas yet. I would expect for Pesce the starting piece is something along the lines of Tkachuk. And that is never happening so it’s a moot point.

For Formenton, I would offer up 2 quality prospects and a pick, with the prospects coming in about when Ottawa’s cup window starts to really open up. I would offer something along the lines of Honka, Gunler, and a 5th. A projected top 4 RHD and a projected top 6 RW, and a 5th. Do you think the Sens would consider that package.


I'm not suggesting that it would just be Formenton. I was putting it out there to see what sort of package that includes Formenton would it take to get Pesce. The Sens are not in a rebuilding window anymore. You can see from the DeBrincat trade, the team is looking to fill in holes in the lineup so they can make the playoffs this season. A top 4 RD is a player they're looking for.
11 juill. 2022 à 15 h 8
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Connor Brown isn't worth a first, even with 50% retained. He scored 10 goals last season ffs.
11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 6
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Quoting: Funksoljah
Probably costs more than a 3rd and a 5th to dump that Murray contract. 6.25m cap hit is one thing, but his salary the next 2 seasons is 7 million and 8 million. That's a lot of money to pay a goalie who can't seem to put it back together. May end up having to keep him or buy him out.


I wasn't so far off lol
11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 8
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Nowhere near enough to move that Murray contract


I wasn't too far off lol
11 juill. 2022 à 21 h 48
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I wasn't so far off lol


Yea, kind of surprising given how much they were willing to pay Buffalo to take him only to have Toronto do it for peanuts by comparison haha.
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