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Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 3 juill. 2022
Publié: 3 juill. 2022
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Friedge says isles want to keep varly and still add
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3 juill. 2022 à 10 h 49
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I wouldn’t do the Theodore trade or sell low on Beauvillier. Way too much for Jarnkrok. This team would be too mediocre IMO, not good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to get a high pick
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I don’t think Vegas would move Theodore
3 juill. 2022 à 10 h 49
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I don't think this trade works for MTL
3 juill. 2022 à 10 h 57
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I wouldn’t do the Theodore trade or sell low on Beauvillier. Way too much for Jarnkrok. This team would be too mediocre IMO, not good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to get a high pick


Without trotz... they may get a high pick.
3 juill. 2022 à 10 h 57
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Without trotz... they may get a high pick.


Trotz is the most overrated coach in the league , they won in spite of him
3 juill. 2022 à 10 h 58
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I don't understand the logic of paying 5m for a backup and losing him in FA. But this is Lou so who knows.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 1
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Trotz is the most overrated coach in the league , they won in spite of him


This team has zero fire power. Sorokin is good but he isn't that good. Defence was the only way to win games.
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3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 4
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HABS arent trading the 33rd pick for beauvilier. Isles are desperate to move cap. We dont need to help and overpay
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 4
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This team has zero fire power. Sorokin is good but he isn't that good. Defence was the only way to win games.


Sorokin is a top 3 goaltender in the league . Defense was not the only way to win games, Trotz buried all of his young players and put plugs with Barzal
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 8
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Sorokin is a top 3 goaltender in the league . Defense was not the only way to win games, Trotz buried all of his young players and put plugs with Barzal


Sorokin is a great goalie. No goalie is good enough to float a team that can't score for an entire season. This team as posted is depressing. Let's see if Lou can do any better.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 9
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I don't understand the logic of paying 5m for a backup and losing him in FA. But this is Lou so who knows.


From what I heard from Isles fans is that the feeling is mutual. So perhaps he resigns if they are a playoff team.

I expect Lou to try moving one of the 5m forwards. Wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to trade Pageau+13th OV for Anderson and someone else so that MTL is shedding some cap.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 10
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This team has zero fire power. Sorokin is good but he isn't that good. Defence was the only way to win games.


Disagree on sorokin.. agree on firepower but issue is only way to get a top 4 d and a top 6 forward not named pulj is pray holmstrom/räty can step in right away and that won’t happen OR trade varly and Bailey
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 11
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From what I heard from Isles fans is that the feeling is mutual. So perhaps he resigns if they are a playoff team.

I expect Lou to try moving one of the 5m forwards. Wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to trade Pageau+13th OV for Anderson and someone else so that MTL is shedding some cap.


It is highly unlikely the islanders trade for Anderson
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 13
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Sorokin is a great goalie. No goalie is good enough to float a team that can't score for an entire season. This team as posted is depressing. Let's see if Lou can do any better.


There’s 2 30 goal scorers on the team here still lines could use some reworking but to say this team won’t score (and would also have arguably have the best top 4 d pairings in the league) hurting sorokin is wrong
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Sorokin is a great goalie. No goalie is good enough to float a team that can't score for an entire season. This team as posted is depressing. Let's see if Lou can do any better.


Im not doubting the isles have flaws. They need a top line forward. But they have 3 top pair caliber defenseman in their primes and one of the best center cores in the league. Trotz didn’t know how to utilize young players and that’s what cost the isles, buried Wahlstrom on the 4th line instead of playing him with Barzal
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 19
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It is highly unlikely the islanders trade for Anderson


Seems like they are trying though but I don't think it will work out since both teams are looking to shed cap, which means that one of them would have to make another deal elsewhere before.

It could be done in a Beauvillier+13th over for Anderson+ but Hughes is probably trying to sell high+buy low and Lou won't want to sell low on Beau especially if he's paying up fot Anderson already. I wouldn't be surprised though if something gets done on draft day when the Isles are up assuming they haven't already traded Anderson for a top 10 pick
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 21
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Seems like they are trying though but I don't think it will work out since both teams are looking to shed cap, which means that one of them would have to make another deal elsewhere before.

It could be done in a Beauvillier+13th over for Anderson+ but Hughes is probably trying to sell high+buy low and Lou won't want to sell low on Beau especially if he's paying up fot Anderson already. I wouldn't be surprised though if something gets done on draft day when the Isles are up assuming they haven't already traded Anderson for a top 10 pick


Who said the islanders are trying to trade for him besides Habs fans? Go compare Beauvillier and Andersons playoff stats and that will tell you why Lou wouldn’t even trade Beau for anderson 1 for 1.

The only way pick 13 gets traded is for a top line forward who can put up 60-70 pts. Anderson is not a fit on the islanders
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 24
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There’s 2 30 goal scorers on the team here still lines could use some reworking but to say this team won’t score (and would also have arguably have the best top 4 d pairings in the league) hurting sorokin is wrong


It's not that they won't score (pretty sure their new choach will let them play more offensively) but it's that they didn't score much under Trotz, last season they were 23rd in GF.

There's no guarantee that whatever the new guy implements would allow this team to score a lot more without giving up much on the defensive end, without adding another goal scorer.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 33
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Who said the islanders are trying to trade for him besides Habs fans? Go compare Beauvillier and Andersons playoff stats and that will tell you why Lou wouldn’t even trade Beau for anderson 1 for 1.

The only way pick 13 gets traded is for a top line forward who can put up 60-70 pts. Anderson is not a fit on the islanders


It's based off a report from a French outlet but doesn't mean that there is no interest. Anderson had 19G (his team scored 9 goals less than NYI), Barzal had double his points but only 15G. It's not a stretch to think that if they played together Barzal would be setting up Andersen for 30+ goals. He's big and plays an explosive offensive game and has a dangerous shot, match that with Barzal's speed there might be a fit.

So they would be expecting him to get that. There is DeBrincat always though if they are willing to pay up but I think Lou prefers bigger players and not getting absolutely fleeced.

I'm no saying Anderson won't fail in NYI just that a GM could see him as a solution to their scoring woes.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 38
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It's based off a report from a French outlet but doesn't mean that there is no interest. Anderson had 19G (his team scored 9 goals less than NYI), Barzal had double his points but only 15G. It's not a stretch to think that if they played together Barzal would be setting up Andersen for 30+ goals. He's big and plays an explosive offensive game and has a dangerous shot, match that with Barzal's speed there might be a fit.


It’s not a credible reporter - no different than me going on my Twitter account and tweeting that the Habs have interest in trading their 1st overall pick for Scott mayfield. Did Lou check in? Probably , That’s what GMs normally do. There’s no chance he offered his 1st rd pick, that was reported for clicks

I don’t think there’s a worse fit for Barzal than Josh Anderson. Anderson might have the lowest hockey IQ in the NHL, he can’t think the game fast enough to play with Barzal. If you can’t execute simple passes you can’t play on his line anyways, and Anderson can’t do that.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 50
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It’s not a credible reporter - no different than me going on my Twitter account and tweeting that the Habs have interest in trading their 1st overall pick for Scott mayfield. Did Lou check in? Probably , That’s what GMs normally do. There’s no chance he offered his 1st rd pick, that was reported for clicks

I don’t think there’s a worse fit for Barzal than Josh Anderson. Anderson might have the lowest hockey IQ in the NHL, he can’t think the game fast enough to play with Barzal. If you can’t execute simple passes you can’t play on his line anyways, and Anderson can’t do that.


Everyone is looking for clicks, so I wouldn't be fixated on credibility in the media when it comes trade rumors .

Pretty sure all that was said was the GMs talked and Anderson and the 13th were the subjects of talk not that it would be a 1 for 1 or that a deal was being worked on. Hughes could have very much leaked it to increase interest in Anderson so that he can get a higher pick from another team or a better deal from the Isles that includes Beauvillier.

You might be right about Anderson with Barzal but we will never really know what happens. A GM has to look at what is available on the market and he's going to come up with his own decision (not necessarily a good one or the right one) with the help of his war room.
3 juill. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Everyone is looking for clicks, so I wouldn't be fixated on credibility in the media when it comes trade rumors . Pretty sure all that was said was the GMs talked and Anderson and the 13th were the subjects of talk not that it would be a 1 for 1 or that a deal was being worked on. Hughes could have very much leaked it to increase interest in Anderson so that he can get a higher pick from another team or a better deal from the Isles that includes Beauvillier.

You might be right about Anderson with Barzal but we will never really know what happens. A GM has to look at what is available on the market and he's going to come up with his own decision (not necessarily a good one or the right one) with the help of his war room.


Yes but this was some random blogger with no credibility, he’s no different than a capfriendly user.

Lou Lamoriello and his front office always stay away from low IQ players. They’d rather sign a less skilled, high IQ player than a fast player with low IQ.
3 juill. 2022 à 12 h 28
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Yes but this was some random blogger with no credibility, he’s no different than a capfriendly user.

Lou Lamoriello and his front office always stay away from low IQ players. They’d rather sign a less skilled, high IQ player than a fast player with low IQ.


Whoever was the source the report still came from RDS (French TSN) so that just shows you how much credibility measures in the industry when it comes to rumors. The guy could have an insider connection unlike most if not all random capfriendly users.

We will have to wait to see what happens (or doesn't). I would like to add though that you are probably underestimating how much Josh Anderson is overrated (imo) around the league, and I think it is because he had one of the top 5v5 G/60 last year or over some stretch during this year.
3 juill. 2022 à 12 h 40
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Whoever was the source the report still came from RDS (French TSN) so that just shows you how much credibility measures in the industry when it comes to rumors. The guy could have an insider connection unlike most if not all random capfriendly users.

We will have to wait to see what happens (or doesn't). I would like to add though that you are probably underestimating how much Josh Anderson is overrated (imo) around the league, and I think it is because he had one of the top 5v5 G/60 last year or over some stretch during this year.


I’m pretty sure RDS never claimed isles would give the 13th pick, just that there was interest in Anderson. RDS is wrong on most things anyways.

I have no doubt Anderson has market value, but his on ice impact is that of a low end 3rd liner.
3 juill. 2022 à 13 h 5
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I’m pretty sure RDS never claimed isles would give the 13th pick, just that there was interest in Anderson. RDS is wrong on most things anyways.

I have no doubt Anderson has market value, but his on ice impact is that of a low end 3rd liner.


I think a team is going to acquire Anderson for a haul that they will regret. And yeah I don't think RDS said it will be the 13th for Anderson, just that those are the pieces of interest that were discussed. I'm sure Hughes wants more than just a first for him, and he also wants his former client Beauvillier. It definitely shouldn't be a 2 for 1, and I don't think it will be.
 
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