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Créé par: CapsJets
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2022
Publié: 23 juin 2022
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Curious to know what everyone thinks of these trades!

I know I have bias here. but I tried to make them fair ish lol

I know not all of this would happen, but would be cool to see a full on rebuild if Dubois, Scheifele both want out
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34 750 000 $
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1.
WPG
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. Wheeler, Blake (4 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Jets retain half of Wheeler to make him moveable. Also throw in former 1st round pick, Vesalainen who might benefit from a fresh start somewhere else, and is on a cheap contract for the Canes
2.
WPG
FLA
  1. Scheifele, Mark
Détails additionnels:
Maurice gets his former player in Scheifele, Jets take on some cap in the Hornqvist contract which is why the return is quite high.

Barkov & Scheifele is a deadly 1/2 punch down the middle
3.
WPG
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Schmidt was great in Vegas, since missing the playoffs maybe they are interested in getting him back to help the D core.

Don't think he has much value with the contract he's on so I think Winnipeg has to add to allow Vegas to take the contract
4.
WPG
  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
  2. Stanley, Logan
Détails additionnels:
Boston given the opportunity to discuss a contract with PLD prior to the trade and he signs long term with them. Something around 8 x 8.

Stanley another former 1st round pick of the Jets, Samberg and Heinola have more upside IMO, so Boston gets some size on their blueline after moving Carlo
5.
WPG
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Münzenberger, Luca [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
Détails additionnels:
Hellebuyck has said he wants to stay in Winnipeg, but if they gut the roster for a rebuild, I doubt he would want to be here for that during the prime of his career.

Edmonton was a goalie away from being a very competitive team this season. They go out and trade for arguably a top 5 goalie in the league.
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C, AG
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UFA - 1
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 10
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Throw wheeler in with scheifele and bring bobrovsky back from Florida, if your trading helly, if your selling even less ufas coming than usual.
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 13
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We take. We run.
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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I think thats good value for the canes, but idk if they take that considering their cap situatiom
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 36
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Caps give you a better offer for PLD
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 38
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Need one better piece for Bucky, like Holloway.
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Need one better piece for Bucky, like Holloway.


We need someone to get Dubois some sort of enhanced Pro Xtra membership at Home Depot. squinty smile
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23 juin 2022 à 11 h 46
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I think you can get more for PLD & Helley.

Canes trade is very interesting - not sure how likely WPG is on retaining 2x4 but I guess in your scenario they're entering a full rebuild. I actually would do that deal the more I think about it. My preference would be to get a younger goal scorer but Wheeler is still a very effective PPGish player and would be a good replacement for Nino if he left. 2 years remaining fits as well with when Canes will need some extra space for raises to guys like Aho, Pesce, Jarvis, Turbo.

Not sure if he'd want to come to CAR but I think he only has 5 team trade protection and I would imagine he wouldn't mind coming here to chase a cup.
23 juin 2022 à 12 h 20
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We need someone to get Dubois some sort of enhanced Pro Xtra membership at Home Depot. squinty smile


PLD can **** off, he can go work at Home Depot for all I care... lol 😆
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 22
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We need someone to get Dubois some sort of enhanced Pro Xtra membership at Home Depot. squinty smile


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
PLD can **** off, he can go work at Home Depot for all I care... lol 😆


For the record I'm not one of these bitter Jets fans cause most don't want to play in Winnipeg but who announces this two years from UFA, most of these guys are willing to "play ball" and help a team out but he just sank his value for the Jets, what a fukcin d!CK move!

What infuriates me though is the fact neither Laine or Roslovic had a problem with Winnipeg, FFS what a stupid organization!!
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 39
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Caps give you a better offer for PLD


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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 41
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Quoting: FullSend
We take. We run.


I initially had Puli in the trade, but wasn't sure what Oiler fans would think of that. Same with Holloway. With their cap situation, I figured they'd value those young players on cheaper deals (depending what Puli signs for obviously)
23 juin 2022 à 13 h 43
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I think you can get more for PLD & Helley.

Canes trade is very interesting - not sure how likely WPG is on retaining 2x4 but I guess in your scenario they're entering a full rebuild. I actually would do that deal the more I think about it. My preference would be to get a younger goal scorer but Wheeler is still a very effective PPGish player and would be a good replacement for Nino if he left. 2 years remaining fits as well with when Canes will need some extra space for raises to guys like Aho, Pesce, Jarvis, Turbo.

Not sure if he'd want to come to CAR but I think he only has 5 team trade protection and I would imagine he wouldn't mind coming here to chase a cup.


I just think without retaining salary on Wheeler, no team is going to want him. I see the Canes as a team that is right on the cusp of a championship, and I'm not saying Wheeler is the missing piece by ANY means lol, but I figured they might take him for 4 mill, plus getting Vesalainen who has potential, just hasn't been given an opportunity in Winnipeg IMO
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 44
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Throw wheeler in with scheifele and bring bobrovsky back from Florida, if your trading helly, if your selling even less ufas coming than usual.


Not a bad idea honestly, get rid of Wheeler and take on Bobrovsky. Almost cap dump for cap dump, but yet somewhat fills needs of the opposing teams
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I think thats good value for the canes, but idk if they take that considering their cap situatiom


Agreed, that's why I have the Jets retaining 4 mill on Wheeler, so his contract would only cost them about 4 mill AAV, plus they get Vesalainen who is young, cheap and under utilized in Winnipeg. Pretty low risk I felt, but I'm always curious to see what fans of the other teams think
23 juin 2022 à 13 h 46
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Not a bad idea honestly, get rid of Wheeler and take on Bobrovsky. Almost cap dump for cap dump, but yet somewhat fills needs of the opposing teams


Not sure if bob agrees, but could kind of interesting spot to develop a elc tender or two, for bobs 4 years
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 48
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Not sure if bob agrees, but could kind of interesting spot to develop a elc tender or two, for bobs 4 years


Yeah true, if he's got any sort of NMC, you have to imagine Winnipeg is on that list lol
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Need one better piece for Bucky, like Holloway.


As an Oilers fan I would rather trade 2 first round picks for this year and next in place of Holloway. Although I complelty respect the value of Holloway in that trade. The Oil need to start keeping their drafted and developed players only way to get better. But I would love to have Hellebuyck.
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23 juin 2022 à 13 h 53
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As an Oilers fan I would rather trade 2 first round picks for this year and next in place of Holloway. Although I complelty respect the value of Holloway in that trade. The Oil need to start keeping their drafted and developed players only way to get better. But I would love to have Hellebuyck.


Coming from a non oiler fan, I completely agree. I feel like the Oilers need to let their young guys develop. If you have McDavid / Draisaitl down the middle, you will have success (Crosby / Malkin example, build around them with young, cheaper pieces)

But like I mentioned in my explanation, I think the Oilers were a legit (or even average goalie... sorry Smith) goalie away from making a deeper run. Getting an arguably top 5 player at his position in Helle might push them over the top, and you give up anything to win a cup in sports now days. So maybe players like Holloway, or Pulijarvi become available
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Coming from a non oiler fan, I completely agree. I feel like the Oilers need to let their young guys develop. If you have McDavid / Draisaitl down the middle, you will have success (Crosby / Malkin example, build around them with young, cheaper pieces)

But like I mentioned in my explanation, I think the Oilers were a legit (or even average goalie... sorry Smith) goalie away from making a deeper run. Getting an arguably top 5 player at his position in Helle might push them over the top, and you give up anything to win a cup in sports now days. So maybe players like Holloway, or Pulijarvi become available


Yeah I could see adding JP in there before I would want Holloway in there. In addition we could add a goalie prospect Olivier Rodrigue (not sure what WPG has for goalies in their prospect pipeline). But a tandem between Helle and Skinner would be unreal. I would do that anyday.
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Probably don't have as good of a roster player as Carlo to add but I assume Lapierre + the next two firsts + Eller + something else. Would definitely be more of a rebuild than a retool package but its three premium future assets instead of one
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
For the record I'm not one of these bitter Jets fans cause most don't want to play in Winnipeg but who announces this two years from UFA, most of these guys are willing to "play ball" and help a team out but he just sank his value for the Jets, what a fukcin d!CK move!

What infuriates me though is the fact neither Laine or Roslovic had a problem with Winnipeg, FFS what a stupid organization!!


Agreed. After Trouba rescinded his trade request, he and his agent played ball by being quiet about his plans. It never leaked out that Trouba had a list of one team where he would sign an extension, which enabled Cheveldayoff to get the best return he could from NYR. I remember a report which mentioned Jim Rutherford (PIT at the time) said that he offered a much better package for Trouba, implying he didn't know of the one team list (otherwise the offer would have been lower).
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24 juin 2022 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: qc14
Probably don't have as good of a roster player as Carlo to add but I assume Lapierre + the next two firsts + Eller + something else. Would definitely be more of a rebuild than a retool package but its three premium future assets instead of one


True, ya never know what Jets decide to do, and in this complete rebuild scenario, I could see them accepting something like Lappy, 2 1st rounders, and eat the cap of Eller
 
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