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All-in retool - cup 2023 easy

Créé par: Ihopeigetit
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
46 000 000 $
42 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Olofsson, Victor [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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3.
BOS
  1. Wheeler, Blake
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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2022
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Logo de ARI
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Logo de WPG
2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $80 833 691 $0 $1 912 500 $1 666 309 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2

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21 juin 2022 à 18 h 44
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What is WPG adding in the VAN trade? Miller > Scheifele
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21 juin 2022 à 18 h 47
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Bruins pass. Wheeler is on the back 9 of his career, plus devils and senator fans have offered 2 oa and 7 oa plus prospects.
21 juin 2022 à 18 h 48
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Every team declines
21 juin 2022 à 18 h 55
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ya thats not even close that 24 1st alone will barely cover wheelers contract to dump.
for pasta and to dump wheeler a trade would have to look like

Perfetti+Wheeler+ Lucuis+ 22 and 24 1st's+ 23 2nd

Pasta could easily get 3 1sts worth of value now since we take on wheelers contract it will cost atleast 4 1sts
21 juin 2022 à 19 h 4
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Three very easy no's from Winnipeg.

The Jets aren't overpaying for a LW they don't need.

Scheifele is far better than Miller and Miller is a rental, so why would the Jets downgrade from two years of Scheifele to one of a worse player.

The Jets aren't overpaying for a rental winger.
21 juin 2022 à 19 h 4
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Quoting: qwertymann
What is WPG adding in the VAN trade? Miller > Scheifele


Why do my spidey senses tell me that Jet's fans feel the opposite?
21 juin 2022 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: Windjammer
Three very easy no's from Winnipeg.

The Jets aren't overpaying for a LW they don't need.

Scheifele is far better than Miller and Miller is a rental, so why would the Jets downgrade from two years of Scheifele to one of a worse player.

The Jets aren't overpaying for a rental winger.


I'm sorry, did you just say Miller is inferior to Scheifele? Please explain?
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21 juin 2022 à 19 h 16
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I know you're extremely biased, but you can't actually believe there's any doubt right? You're just messing around?


Uh, no I'm not, Miller is visibly a more complete player than Scheifele. Everyone knows Scheifele is a defensive liability. It's you who's biased, which everyone also knows
21 juin 2022 à 19 h 55
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Uh, no I'm not, Miller is visibly a more complete player than Scheifele. Everyone knows Scheifele is a defensive liability. It's you who's biased, which everyone also knows


Lol. One fluke season by Miller doesn't put him on Scheifele's level. Come back when Miller hits 6 straight PPG seasons. I know it's cool to try and exaggerate Scheifele's defensive issues, but he's so much better than Miller offensively, it doesn't really matter.

Defense can be taught, scoring at Scheifele's level can't.
21 juin 2022 à 20 h 0
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Lol. One fluke season by Miller doesn't put him on Scheifele's level. Come back when Miller hits 6 straight PPG seasons. I know it's cool to try and exaggerate Scheifele's defensive issues, but he's so much better than Miller offensively, it doesn't really matter.

Defense can be taught, scoring at Scheifele's level can't.


Uh, how exactly is Scheifele better offensively than Miller? Miller scored at a higher clip than Scheifele JUST THIS PAST SEASON

You're out to lunch if you're calling Millers most recent campaign a fluke, only trolls to make that claim. Miller hit a new level offensively ever since he came to Vancouver, that's not hard to see

Lastly, I know Scheifele has been a PPG longer than Miller has, but I'm only comparing where both players performance levels are at currently, not looking at the past
21 juin 2022 à 20 h 5
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Uh, how exactly is Scheifele better offensively than Miller? Miller scored at a higher clip than Scheifele JUST THIS PAST SEASON

You're out to lunch if you're calling Millers most recent campaign a fluke, only trolls to make that claim. Miller hit a new level offensively ever since he came to Vancouver, that's not hard to see

Lastly, I know Scheifele has been a PPG longer than Miller has, but I'm only comparing where both players performance levels are at currently, not looking at the past


Of course you're only looking at his most recent season. Because without cherry picking, you can't make anything resembling an argument that Miller is better. Scheifele is undoubtedly the superior, more consistent player.

There's a reason Vancouver hasn't been able to move Miller after trying for months. The Canucks are overvaluing him in trade talks.
21 juin 2022 à 21 h 57
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These trades would get rejected.

That defense is still pretty weak.
22 juin 2022 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: Windjammer
Of course you're only looking at his most recent season. Because without cherry picking, you can't make anything resembling an argument that Miller is better. Scheifele is undoubtedly the superior, more consistent player.


You argue with cherry picking but suddenly Scheifele's defensive weakness isn't counted or "can be tought". Also, Scheifele's career FO% is 46.2, Miller's 52.7.

I still believe Scheifele's value is higher than Miller's (regardless their contracts) but I would not act like there is such a huge gap between them really.
28 juin 2022 à 11 h 41
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Of course you're only looking at his most recent season. Because without cherry picking, you can't make anything resembling an argument that Miller is better. Scheifele is undoubtedly the superior, more consistent player.

There's a reason Vancouver hasn't been able to move Miller after trying for months. The Canucks are overvaluing him in trade talks.


"Haven't been able to move Miller after trying for months" Thats how we know your opinion is invalid. If you blatantly put out fallacies like that then how is anything else you have to say going to be taken seriously by anyone?
 
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