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Créé par: Black61

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2022

Publié: 14 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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It needs to be said because of the vast quantity of delusional oiler fans that keep posting it. The habs DO NOT WANT BARRIE. The trade makes 0 sense on multiple levels for the habs

The habs already have their Dcore set for next year. Even if they trade Petry they still have Savard Wideman and Barron at RD along with Edmundson who have extensive RD experience. They dont need him they have enough bodies already.

They already have Wideman who is only a slight downgrade at a fraction of the cost. Barrie finished outside the top 10 in PP P/60 this year among dmen (while playing with mcdavid and draisaitl) and finished on pace for less than 50 points. The gap isnt that big between him and wideman and doesnt justify the major cap difference. He isnt a premier offensive dman anymore and will only get worse as he ages and doesnt get gifted easy mcdavid points.

The habs are also rebuilding so spending assets on a soon to be 31 year old defensively deficient dman makes 0 sense. Some of the AGMs have the habs giving up their 33rd overall pick + why would they not use that on a player in their 20s who would ACTUALLY be around in 5 years.

Cap wise it also makes no sense which should be obvious.

The ONLY way Barrie ends up on the habs is if they pay the habs to take him. And that wont be cheap.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Clague, Kale	1	750 000 $
Schueneman, Corey	1	750 000 $
Romanov, Alexander	1	2 500 000 $

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	73 045 416 $	1 132 500 $	1 570 000 $	9 454 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Harris, Jordan 842 500 $842 500 $ (507 500 $$508K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DD RFA - 2
Clague, Kale 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2
Schueneman, Corey 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG RFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 4

14 juin 2022 à 17 h 31

Byrr

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Hey look, another one of these idiotic threads. As always, let's have a look.

The 'vast quantity' of Edmonton fans posting Barrie to Montreal trades: 2 in the last 50 Edmonton AGMs. If 2 AGMs in 50 is too much for you, might I suggest the problem isn't Edmonton fans ... its you.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 38

Gary_The_Bettman

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Stop trying to trade Allen to the Oilers.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 38

Timmah007

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Comparing Barrie to Wideman is like comparing McDavid to Suzuki. Not meant to be disrespectful towards Wideman but not on the same level or even close.

How about we all agree to stop sending Barrie to Montreal and stop moving Anderson to Edmonton. Seems like a fair trade off for all of our sanity.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 42

Black61

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Quoting: Byrr

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3333867

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3333713

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3332661

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3332227

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3327385

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3326910

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3327385

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3327491

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3327152

These are just some of them from the last 48 hours.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 47

Black61

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Quoting: Timmah007

The gap isnt that big. from Jan1 to the end of the season Barrie only had 3 more PP points than Wideman in 42 games despite getting to play with mcdavid and draisaitl.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 52

DirtyDangle

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honestly barrie to montreal makes a lot of sense if they move petry.

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 53

Black61

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

honestly barrie to montreal makes a lot of sense if they move petry.

It makes 0 sense unless they get paid to take him

14 juin 2022 à 17 h 55

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Black61

^I LOVE THIS^

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 55

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I support this

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14 juin 2022 à 17 h 59

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Timmah007

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Quoting: Black61

The gap isnt that big. from Jan1 to the end of the season Barrie only had 3 more PP points than Wideman in 42 games despite getting to play with mcdavid and draisaitl.

That's also coming off a statistically bad season for barries standards. At his worst he's still better than Wideman at his best. I'm Honesty not intending to downplay Wideman or discredit him there's a reason why one is paid over 4 million and the other is floating around league min.

14 juin 2022 à 18 h 5

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Black61

It makes 0 sense unless they get paid to take him

To add to your points;

1. MTL is rebuilding and have no interest to pay for a soon to be UFA. Like, lower their chances to get Bedard?!?!

2. MTL doesnt have any capspace so far for next season. Hughes main ojective is to substract salary,not to add!

3.Few EDM fans trades take caphit back since their objective is to dump Barrie's contract. But why look at the finances of the team you are trying to do business with,right?

4. MTL already have 3 NHL level RHD + at least 3 puck moving prospects. Can do without even if he would make the roster.

I'm ok with a Hofman for Barrie idea, but most of the crazy amount of EDM AGMs this week are laughable.

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14 juin 2022 à 18 h 5

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DirtyDangle

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Quoting: Black61

It makes 0 sense unless they get paid to take him

habs clearly need puck movers.

14 juin 2022 à 18 h 17

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Black61

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You clearly

Quoting: Timmah007

By that logic is Vlasic still a 1D because he is being paid like one? Theres a reason why there are so many AGM threads where the oilers dump him and its because he isnt worth his contract. And its not a bad season by his standards 3 of his last 6 seasons were around the same pace.

At 31 and going to a non mcdavid teams its also not remotely reasonable to expect it to get better. If he gets traded he likely wont have a 40 point season again.

14 juin 2022 à 18 h 20

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Timmah007

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Quoting: Black61

You clearly

By that logic is Vlasic still a 1D because he is being paid like one? Theres a reason why there are so many AGM threads where the oilers dump him and its because he isnt worth his contract. And its not a bad season by his standards 3 of his last 6 seasons were around the same pace.

At 31 and going to a non mcdavid teams its also not remotely reasonable to expect it to get better. If he gets traded he likely wont have a 40 point season again.

Heavily disagree. If he gets moved he's got a couple good productive years ahead.

14 juin 2022 à 18 h 28

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Black61

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Quoting: Timmah007

Heavily disagree. If he gets moved he's got a couple good productive years ahead.

Based on what? Age is not on his side. 2 of the last 3 years are not on his side. Whoever he goes to will have a worse offensive roster. None of that supports a rebound

14 juin 2022 à 18 h 34

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Quoting: jpsnow13

^I LOVE THIS^

He missed the *mic drop* though LOL

14 juin 2022 à 19 h 3

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Timmah007

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Quoting: Black61

Based on what? Age is not on his side. 2 of the last 3 years are not on his side. Whoever he goes to will have a worse offensive roster. None of that supports a rebound

Looking at recent history only being a year removed from leading all d in points. To start this year he was the quarterback while the pp was producing at historic levels. He must be pretty good if he's making Connor and Leon more efficient. Age don't see being a factor for a couple more seasons he doesn't play heavy style also doesn't have injury history to be concerned about.

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