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Hamseason MIN Edition

Créé par: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2022
Publié: 6 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
41 386 489 $
77 100 000 $
3750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 250 000 $
47 250 000 $
31 750 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Deangelo, Anthony1 386 489 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Weber, Shea
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
2.
MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
3.
MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
SJS
4.
MIN
    2023 2nd round pick (SJS)
    5.
    MIN
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
    6.
    MIN
    1. Mackey, Connor
    2. Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
    3. Pelletier, Jakob
    4. Wolf, Dustin
    5. Zary, Connor
    6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
    7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
    8. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
    7.
    PHI
    1. Zuccarello, Mats
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
    8.
    MIN
    1. Sanheim, Travis (2 300 000 $ retained)
    PHI
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2022
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    2023
    Logo de MIN
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    Logo de CGY
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    2024
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MIN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $82 210 910 $0 $1 957 500 $289 090 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 4
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C
    RFA - 3
    4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    1 386 489 $1 386 489 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1

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    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 3
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    Quoting: SimonSelaars3
    You can justify this to yourself in any way you want to, it’s still a terrible take.


    It's really not. Jfresh will release player cards when they sign this summer but this was literally their player cards from just last year
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    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 9
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    Hey no disrespect, but you should do your research about wild. But this is typical from leafs fans like yourself. Not a chance like ever is Guerin bringing in Tony DeAngelo. Alex G didn't sign two years nmc to get traded. Dumba isn't being traded for 2nd round pick and shea Weber contract. Minnesota isn't trading Zuccarello . Minnesota isn't trading a 1st round pick and more for a d they don't need. Seems you are just baiting fans of wild and other teams
    The wild won't win with this core you need to make moves like this

    Quoting: Wildnochance
    Minnesota under Guerin wouldn't ever sign him. But hey typical of bait

    how i am batiing, you get a better and younger Dman in Deanglo
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 10
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    It's really not. Jfresh will release player cards when they sign this summer but this was literally their player cards from just last year
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    Jfresh isn't a great source or model. Faila is better player 100/1000 times
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 11
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    It's really not. Jfresh will release player cards when they sign this summer but this was literally their player cards from just last year
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    Where do you get these stats from? Also I agree that I would keep Mangiapane over fiala straight up from the flames perspective.

    Ah never mind jfresh. I just woke up I didn't see it.
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 11
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    These valuations are all over the place.

    Goligoski is somehow worth a 2nd from San Jose, but Dumba needs Weber’s LTIR contract attached to the 2nd in return?

    Sanheim somehow returns 1st+2nd+2nd for him to walk in a year cause Minnesota can’t afford to re-sign him. Explain the 1st+2nd difference from Sanheim to Dumba.

    Hartman, a guy with over 30 goals and 30 assists this year, is somehow only worth a 3rd in 2024? 2024? Really…

    That Calgary trade has way too many pieces involved.


    Dumba is a cap dump thats why
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 18
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    Jfresh isn't a great source or model. Faila is better player 100/1000 times


    Coming from the guy who made this atrocity of a post, lol ok bud
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 29
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Coming from the guy who made this atrocity of a post, lol ok bud


    ok mr Mohnah is worth a 1st still
    6 juin 2022 à 8 h 35
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    ok mr Mohnah is worth a 1st still


    Quote me on that
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 15
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    My mistake on the age, Mangiapane was drafted a year after as an over ager. As for offense, Fiala just happened to get more secondary assists. Mangiapane had the better xGF/60 and CF/60. Fiala had a better offensive GAR but Mangiapane's total GAR was better due to the sheer gap in their defensive games. From a logical standpoint where Calgary wants to keeps all their main FA's taking the eventual cheaper 2nd liner that fits the Flames system way better is clear better option

    Fiala had 11 more primary assists than Mangiapane had total assists.

    "Fiala just happened to get more secondary assists."

    Mangiapane had a better CF% and xGF% than Kaprizov. Surely you're not gonna sit here and say he is better than Kaprizov?
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 22
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    It's really not. Jfresh will release player cards when they sign this summer but this was literally their player cards from just last year
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    I like how you are using a chart for 18-19, 19-20, and 20-21 as if it's supposed to mean something. Fiala is clearly weighed down by the 18-19 season where he was traded to Minnesota and looked awful.
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 27
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    Fiala had 11 more primary assists than Mangiapane had total assists.

    "Fiala just happened to get more secondary assists."

    Mangiapane had a better CF% and xGF% than Kaprizov. Surely you're not gonna sit here and say he is better than Kaprizov?


    He's not better than Kaprizov overall but at 5v5 Mangiapane was one of the most effective players in the league this year. Look at the 2 player cards I posted above. I am confident Mangiapane will still have a higher WAR% than Fiala once Jfresh posts them after their next deals are signed.

    I think you severely underrate how good Mange was this year and only want to look at total points. Fiala is a good player, that's not being questioned but Mangiapane is pretty on par with him, especially when you factor in 2-way game. Mange will likely be 1-2M cheaper to sign and that cap space will be very important for resigning Gaudreau and Tkachuk. To me that is a pretty easy no 1 for 1 based just off that
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 29
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    I like how you are using a chart for 18-19, 19-20, and 20-21 as if it's supposed to mean something. Fiala is clearly weighed down by the 18-19 season where he was traded to Minnesota and looked awful.


    You realize only the graph shows from the previous years right? All the numbers there were strictly from last year
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: ReelBigFan
    Sanhiems value is pretty close to what I’d expect them to land, probably worth considerably more but think that’s what they’d get


    How does Dumba get a 2nd+Weber's contract, but Sanheim gets 1st+2nd+2nd? The rationale for each trade is what I'm questioning cause it feels like Minnesota is just trading away a 1st and 2nd round pick for the "privilege" of owning Weber's contract.
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    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 31
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    Dumba is a cap dump thats why


    Dumba is not a cap dump.
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 32
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    You realize only the graph shows from the previous years right? All the numbers there were strictly from last year


    You realize this is exactly why it's faulty, right? It's not useful at all at the moment.
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 34
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    How does Dumba get a 2nd+Weber's contract, but Sanheim gets 1st+2nd+2nd? The rationale for each trade is what I'm questioning cause it feels like Minnesota is just trading away a 1st and 2nd round pick for the "privilege" of owning Weber's contract.

    Ah. I didn’t even see that part, yeah Dumba has more value there and the contract thing shouldn’t even be in the deal
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    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 36
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    You realize this is exactly why it's faulty, right? It's not useful at all at the moment.


    Hence why I said " Jfresh will release player cards when they sign this summer" and "I am confident Mangiapane will still have a higher WAR% than Fiala once Jfresh posts them after their next deals are signed"

    Come back in 3 months when they are posted and Mange's is still better
    6 juin 2022 à 10 h 45
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    He's not better than Kaprizov overall but at 5v5 Mangiapane was one of the most effective players in the league this year. Look at the 2 player cards I posted above. I am confident Mangiapane will still have a higher WAR% than Fiala once Jfresh posts them after their next deals are signed.

    I think you severely underrate how good Mange was this year and only want to look at total points. Fiala is a good player, that's not being questioned but Mangiapane is pretty on par with him, especially when you factor in 2-way game. Mange will likely be 1-2M cheaper to sign and that cap space will be very important for resigning Gaudreau and Tkachuk. To me that is a pretty easy no 1 for 1 based just off that


    Your stats mean literally nothing because they are not up to date. And no **** Kaprizov is a better, he blows Mangiapane out of the water. The fact that your phrasing seems to suggest that Mangiapane is even remotely close to Kaprizov is truly shocking.

    Nah, I just don't overrate Mangiapane like you do. But hey, if you think Mangiapane is on par with Fiala then I hope Calgary pays him the same $7.5-8M per season.
    6 juin 2022 à 11 h 8
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    Ricardo Montalban would really have his work cut out for him to make all those proposals come true on FANTASY ISLAND.
    6 juin 2022 à 12 h 5
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    The wild won't win with this core you need to make moves like this


    how i am batiing, you get a better and younger Dman in Deanglo


    No Minnesota wouldn't sign or ever look at DeAngelo. DeAngelo sucks.
    6 juin 2022 à 12 h 6
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    Dumba is a cap dump thats why


    No he's not
    7 juin 2022 à 1 h 41
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    Dumba is not a cap dump.


    He is
    7 juin 2022 à 1 h 41
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    No he's not


    He is, he is horrible dman
    7 juin 2022 à 1 h 41
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    No Minnesota wouldn't sign or ever look at DeAngelo. DeAngelo sucks.


    Better than dumba
    7 juin 2022 à 11 h 37
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    He is


    Maybe to uneducated hockey people.
     
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